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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001/03/06 ,... 1.1 I I ?Ki t4 -:I9mt ~ STATUTORY PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING MINUTES A Statutory Public Information Meeting was held on Tuesday, March 6, 2001 at 7:10 p.m. in the Council Chambers. PRESENT: Councillor M. Brenner, Chair ALSO PRESENT: C. Rose R. Taylor D. Kearns - Manager, Policy - Planner II - Committee Coordinator The Manager, Policy, provided an overview of the requirements of the Planning Act and the Ontario Municipal Board respecting this meeting and matters under consideration thereat. (I) ~ - DURHAM REGION OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION OPA 2000-05/D PICKERING OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION OP A 00-002/P DRAFT PLAN OF SUBDIVISION APPLICATION S-P-2000-03 ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATIONS A 26/00 AND A 29/00 MINISTER'S ZONING ORDER AMENDMENT APPLICATION 18-Z0-02900-01 CHERRY DOWNS COVENTURE LTD. PART OF LOTS 12 TO 16, CONCESSION 7 (LANDS SOUTH OF EIGHTH CONCESSION ROAD, NORTH OF DURHAM REGIONAL ROAD NO. 31 AND WEST OF SIDELINE 12 1. Ron Taylor, Planner II, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #02-01. 2. Peter Smith, Bousfield, Dale-Harris, Cutler and Smith Inc. advised that Cherry Downs Co-Venture Ltd. consists of a real estate venture formed between Clublink Corporation and the Kaitlin Group Ltd. Mr. Smith gave a brief background report on the proposals put forward by Clublink advising that the number of units have been reduced to 125 and this proposal fits within the rural population growth plans. He noted the residential proposal represents no more than 20% ofthe total lands owned by Clublink (which was a similar standard imposed by York Region on comparable development), making the residential component accessory to the golf operations. He further advised that these applications have been appealed to the Ontario Municipal Board. A peer review study is underway dealing with environmental and traffic issues. 3. Bill Wilder, Side Road 12, advised that he has submitted two letters in opposition to this application. He questioned the size of the proposed golf course, how this development will be financed and whether or not golf course holes are fixed. A representative of the applicant responded by advising that the land situated in the north-east corner has been identified as environmentally significant and no development can take place on this land. He further responded by stating that the bank finances their projects and yes, the golf course holes are fixed. --.. - - --2-- 4. Chris Whillans, stated that he believes the housing development is proposed to pay for the golf course and to put money into the developers pockets. He has great doubts that they won't come back in a couple of years for further housing. What would happen if the well and septic system fail in five years and if the communal system goes, who pays for repair. He also questioned how this will enhance the community. Councillor Brenner requested Planning staff to consider and comment on the new Ontario Government Clean Water Legislation as it may affect the proposal when providing recommendations to Council. 5. Brian Buckles, Conc. 7, advised that he will forward more elaborate comments by letter but wished to state his concern with the communal septic. He asked if Clublink would be willing to guarantee in perpetuity that only 125 units will be built on this property. He also advised that Planning staff should look at the precedent which will be sent and stated his concern that with Hwy. 407 under construction this will create more applications for this type of development. 6. Mike Newman, feels the nine lots are a foregone conclusion and will be approved. He questioned if Planning staff can request the developer to improve the water system and straighten out the on-line pond. Mike Jones, representing the applicant responded to Mr. Newman by advising that water will only be taken when there is a lot of water in the creek. Water will be recycled, being used for irrigation and then returned to irrigation pond. Communal systems usually have financial agreements to cover maintenance. Two on-line ponds are being taken out of existence. 7. Fred Beer, 4945 Westney Road, questioned how big the lots will be and stated that if lot sizes were increased, septic systems and weeping beds could be used. He also stated his concern with the environmental impact this will have on the area. A representative of the applicant responded by advising that communal servicing allows residential development to be less land intensive and more environmentally-sensitive while allowing a different housing option in rural areas. He noted that Health Departments are not likely to grant approval for private services on smaller lots (citing 15,000 square feet as no longer a viable lot size to sustain private services). He noted that the Provincial Policy Statement suggests communal servicing arrangements are preferred when considering rural residential development. 8. Steve Murray, 2325 R. R. #5, Claremont, stated his concern with the application sitting in the Planning Department since August with no decision being made. Planning should not be indifferent to the environment and community implications. His further concerns include the taking of water and their change in environmental companies. He advised that the community does not support this application and further advised that residential growth was to occur around existing hamlets. This application should be refused. A representative of the applicant advised that a currently applied for water taking permit to the MOEE requests the maximum of 18 million gallons of water be taken per year. 9. Angie Jones, R. R. #5, advised that Clublink have never received a permit to take water and therefore are doing it illegally. She thanked Fred Beer for all his work over the years on this issue and for handing over his files. She requested a letter ITom the Planning Department advising of the person responsible for making decisions on what is acceptable. She questioned why all four on-line ponds are not being taken off, they are illegal. She stated that it is her believe that if the 10. -- 11. - - --3-- residential component of the application is not approved the golf course will not go through. A letter stating her concerns will be forwarded to the Planning Department. Ross Smith, Sideline 12, questioned why the Sewage Treatment Plant and Reservoir wasn't moved to the other side and will the reservoir sustain fish life. He stated that if the pond overflows a problem will arise. A representative of the applicant responded by stating that the design will prevent the pond ITom overflowing and yes, the pond can sustain fish. He further advised that the Plant and Reservoir location is practical, as it is close to the water intake service and close to the proposed residential development, while easily accessed through Sideline 12. Jack Walmsley, 2125 Conc. 7, has lived in the neighbourhood since 1994 and is a member of the golf course. If the residents and the applicant work together this project could be done. He would like to buy a house on this property and knows 10 other people who also would like to reside there. 12. Marion Thomas, Whitevale, requested that residents see a copy of the agreement with The Toronto Region Conservation Authority regarding on-line and off-line ponds, and commitments more for environmental protection and restoration prior to the golf course construction.. A representative of the applicant responded that there isn't an agreement but conditions set out. 13. Rob O'Brien, Sideline 12, stated his concerns to include the Sewage Treatment Pond, water, condition of roads and bridge and ditching problems. He questioned why the Sewage Treatment Plant can't be placed in the middle of their property instead of where present residents can see it. 14. Carolynn Parke, 1959 Fairport Rd., stated her concern with Spring Creek and Mitchell Creek. She questioned if Clublink has protocol in place to deal with pesticides in the creek. A representative of the applicant responded by advising that three years was spent developing the environmental policy within Clublink which they would try to make available to the public. This pertains to all aspects of the golf course development and operations. Active surface water monitoring is taking place. 15. Fred Beer, 4945 Westney Road, questioned if they are taking water beyond their permit. 16. Pat Horne, 1940 Conc. 8, stated that the applicant promised to put in trees to keep water cold and stop pesticides ITom flowing into the water. She stated her concern with what is happening to streams and water. She questioned if the smaller homes are to be individually owned or time shared. A representative of the applicant responded by advising that all units will be individually owned. 17. John Veele, residing north of the development, stated his surprise that this golf course will be built on the existing healthy eco-system. 18. Peter Smith, Bousfield, Dale-Harris, Cutler and Smith Inc., stated that wording has been included in documents concerning the failure of the communal system. Securities will be posted by the developer and a reserve fund will be in place. Cost of default is covered every which way. On behalf of the consulting team and the Kaitlin Group, they will work together to address concerns. -- 19. (ID --4-- Councillor Brenner requested City staff to review new MOEE legislation and clarify and ramifications to the City and/or Region should the communal servicing become faulty or financially unsustainable. Steve Murray, 2325 R. R. #5, Claremont, stated that there are five or six golf courses within five kilometres. This company is circumventing Planning by going directly to the Ontario Municipal Board. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m. Dated hAR.(~. "2--o-nJ . Clerk Á / - - L