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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 19, 1998 STATUTORY PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING MINUTES A Statutory Public Information Meeting was held on Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. PRESENT: Councillor D. Pickles - Chair - Councillor M. Holland • ALSO PRESENT: B. Taylor - Town Clerk L. Taylor - Manager, Current Operations Division V. Rodrigues - Senior Planner A. Smith - Planner 2 The Manager, Current Operations Division, provided an overview of the requirements of the Planning Act and the Ontario Municipal Board respecting this meeting and matters under consideration thereat. (I) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 19/97 1047114 ONTARIO LIMITED LOTS 15, 16 AND 17, PLAN 21 - (WHITEVALE MILL) 1. Adrian Smith, Planner 2, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report#4/98. 2. Gary Morrison, representing the applicant, provided a background of the principle owner, Mr. Gino Greci. The intent of the application is to upgrade the present building to be more like a general store with building materials being sold. Historic buildings in other communities will be reviewed in order to comply with the Whitevale Heritage Conservation Area. The owner will work with the residents and the Town to develop a building that is acceptable to the residents. 3. Sandra Rider, representing the Whitevale Residents Association, stated that Whitevale is unique and has a 1900s ambiance. A feed mill is in keeping with the existing neighbourhood but a building supply store would be contrary to the intent of the Whitevale Heritage Conservation Area. Her Association will oppose any change to the intent of the Whitevale Heritage Conservation Area. 4. Isobel Thompson, 3181 Byron Street, noted that Whitevale is one of the last examples of a 1900s village and it is a Heritage Conservation Area. A wreckers yard in the centre of the village is not in character with the existing neighbourhood. A wreckers yard is a fire hazard to the wooden houses in the area. 5. Charles Sopher, 440 Mill Street, stated that the small town qualities of Whitevale must be preserved and the Heritage Conservation Area must be maintained. Whitevale is an asset for other people in the GTA. He noted that the owner has erected a high fence and cut off access to the hiking trail. He is worried that the proposed use of a building supply store will create a fire hazard and will set a precedent for similar uses. The historic communities of Niagara-on-the-Lake and Unionville are not examples of buildings in Whitevale. 2 6. Jim Thompson, 437 Churchwin Street, stated that he agrees with the comments made by the previous speakers and felt that the proposed use is unclear. The applicant has not involved the community and the proposed use will increase noise and traffic. He asked the Town to look at the background of the sale of this property. 7. Tommy Thompson, 3181 Byron Street, stated that he is a member of the Community Planning Group and noted that the rural part of Pickering is being retained as rural. This application does not conform to the intent of rural areas. He was encouraged that the Town implemented traffic calming measures on Whitevale Road and the village atmosphere has now been retained. The hiking trail is not accessible for older people because they must now use stairs that are often covered by ice and snow. He noted that the applicant may not have been given all information by the Ontario Realty Corporation about the Whitevale Heritage Conservation Area. 8. Sylvia Cowls, 495 Whitevale Road, asked if the storage area for the proposed use will be covered or uncovered and what kind of security measures will be implemented on the property. She asked if oil and gas tanks will be stored on the subject land and about the weight of trucks and the times of trucks accessing the subject land. She is opposed to this application because it is not in character with the existing neighbourhood. 9. Gord Willson, 455 Whitevale Road, stated that he opposes the application based on the information given to date. This application does not comply with the Whitevale Heritage Conservation Area and he is concerned about traffic and noise from the site. The Ontario Realty Corporation did not communicate the sale of this property to the village residents. 10. Marion Thompson, 437 Churchwin Street, stated that she is dismayed by the number of parking spaces proposed in the application. The parking lot can only be properly built if it is graded and this would cause water runoff problems and trees would be destroyed. She asked that the Town uphold the character of the village. 11. Gary Morrison, representing the applicant, stated that the owner is unaware of some matters that have been implemented in Whitevale. The owner does not intend to have a wrecking yard and most of the storage area will be enclosed. He will meet with the residents to address their concerns. (II) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 32/97 373804 ONTARIO LIMITED -LIVERPOOL SOUTH PLAZA BLOCK S, PLAN M-15 (SOUTHSIDE OF KROSNO BLVD, EAST SIDE OF LIVERPOOL ROAD) 1. Lynda Taylor, Manager, Current Operations Division, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report#5/98. 2. Greg Daly, representing the applicant, stated that he wants to update some of the definitions of the uses to allow more viability for the plaza. The intent of the application is to continue the use of the plaza to serve the community. The owner has spent money on security to keep young people from loitering. There is no intent to have residential uses and the proposed uses are compatible, minor in nature and work well with the existing plaza. 3 3. Susan Williams, 714 Krosno Boulevard, stated that she opposes a billiard hall, meeting hall or any other use that would be open past 11:00 p.m. 4. Keith Soltys, 706 Krosno Boulevard, stated that this plaza is a hangout for teens into the middle of the night but noted that security has reduced this problem somewhat. A billiard hall or arcade would only add to the loitering problem. 5. Paul Kelland, representing PESCA, stated that PESCA will be making a written submission on this application. 6. Mrs. Bergant, 704 Krosno Boulevard, stated that the owner has just started to clean up the plaza now that he wants this application to be approved. More information is needed on some of the proposed uses. 7. Sylvia Spencer, 771 Sheppard Avenue, asked if a laundromat is able to obtain a liquor licence. Places of amusement should not be allowed and there are already enough private clubs elsewhere in the Town. She further asked at what point does a church become a place of assembly and how many residential units could be developed on the subject lands. 8. Don Barker, 728 Krosno Boulevard, stated that noise from the plaza from midnight to 3:00 a.m. is already bad and therefore he does not want any further uses that will create noise late at night. 9. Susan Poole, 1296 Ilona Park Road, stated that none of the proposed uses are specific. There are two elementary schools in the area and she is concerned about the effect of a billiard hall or arcade. She noted that loitering teens are threatening to younger children. 10. Nolan Taggart, 841 Liverpool Road, stated that he agrees with the comments of the previous speakers and noted that some of the proposed uses will make the existing problems worse. He asked for a clearer definition of a personal service shop. 11. David Lim, 713 Krosno Boulevard, stated that he has had a store in the plaza since 1983 at which time it was very busy but has slowed down since then. He agreed that there is a problem with loitering teens but if the plaza is full and vibrant, then the teen problem will be reduced. Therefore,the extended uses should be approved. 12. Vimala Sathiapalan, 702 Krosno Boulevard, stated that there is already much competition for some uses such as bakeries and that uses such as professional offices should be investigated. The teens are a problem and the police have been involved many times at this plaza. 13. Jim Greaves, 700A Krosno Boulevard, stated that some of the uses are a smokescreen and the owner really wants the obnoxious uses such as a billiard hall or arcade. Loitering teens are a problem and uses such as an arcade will only make this problem worse. 14. Vimala Sathiapalan, 702 Krosno Boulevard, stated that the owner should send out a questionnaire seeking input from the area residents or meet with the neighbours. 4 15. Greg Daly, representing the applicant, stated that the uses that are listed are already permitted in the Zoning By-law. He is prepared to work with the residents and staff to determine what uses are acceptable. The issue of loitering teens is a concern to the owner and noted that disorderly people come from other restaurants in the area. The owner has a standard clause in his lease that does not allow any of his tenants to have arcades. He noted that the owner has responded to complaints about loitering teens and other issues. 16. Lynda Taylor, Manager, Current Operations Division, stated that a personal service use is a service such as a hairdresser or barber. A place of amusement or entertainment and private or public clubs does not permit adult entertainment or arcades. 17. Councillor Mark Holland stated that there must be more communication from the applicant on what is needed and what the residents want. (III) OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION 97-007/P DRAFT PLAN OF SUBDIVISION 18t-97029 ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 30/97 116513 ONTARIO INC. (GRAYWOOD DEVELOPMENTS LTD.) NORTH PART OF LOT 20, CONCESSION 1 1. Adrian Smith, Planner 2, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report#6/98. 2. John Bousfield, representing the applicant, stated that the semi-detached dwellings face onto Kingston Road and Valley Farm Road and the townhouses are all internal. He noted that the Town wants some of the subject land for the Recreation Complex and there would be an ornamental parkette at the southeast corner of Kingston Road and Valley Farm Road. He displayed the elevations of the proposed units. 3. Sylvia Spencer, 771 Sheppard Avenue, stated that the driveway at Kingston Road should be a right in and right out only. She noted that there are no retail uses in this application as have been required in other developments along Kingston Road. 4. Ernie Bockus, 1880 Valley Farm Road, Unit #920, asked about the size and price of the proposed housing units. 5. Robert Lennox, representing B.C. Produce, noted that there has been an application for rezoning on the B.C. Produce lands for years but the Town wants these lands to be consolidated with the subject lands. He opposes this application and supports the higher density uses. 6. Terry Farnham, 1890 Valley Farm Road, asked where visitors will park since narrow laneways are allowed for the semis. 7. John Kroeger, representing his mother who lives at 1890 Valley Farm Road, stated that he is concerned about traffic going onto Kingston Road and asked what further steps will be taken with this application. 5 8. John Bousfield, representing the applicant, stated that with respect to the driveway at Kingston Road, he will see what the Region of Durham requires. The house sizes will be about 1,200 to 1,500 square feet and unit prices will be from $150,000 to $200,000. There will be sufficient parking for visitors on-site on Street D and on the internal streets. He is willing to meet with the area residents. This application does not address the densities that Robert Lennox wants and he noted that he has arranged the street pattern to accommodate the B.C. Produce lands. Street A will be opposite the Tridel entrance but this is subject to the Town's approval. Commercial uses were proposed for the subject lands in a previous application, however, the residents of Tridel did not want it. 9. Adrian Smith, Planner 2, stated that staff will be asking the Region and the Town's Director of Public Works to comments on the accesses to the subject lands. With respect to mixed retail uses, this property is appropriate for residential uses only. All parking will be surface parking. 10. John Kroeger stated that the houses must have double garages or there will be serious parking problems. (IV) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 28/97 GARTHWOOD HOMES LIMITED BLOCKS 41 & 42,PLAN 40M-1600 & PART 1,PLAN 40R-17493 (COMPLETION OF FERNCLIFF CIRCLE) 1. Lynda Taylor, Manager, Current Operations Division, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report#7/98. 2. Christine Lazaridis, representing the applicant, stated that she was present to answer any questions. (V) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 31/97 M. ZWICKER LOT 17, PLAN819 (NORTH SIDE OF STROUDS LANE,WEST OF FAIRPORT ROAD) 1. Valerie Rodrigues, Senior Planner, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report#9/98. 2. Greg Enwright, 1878 Spruce Hill Road, stated that he is concerned about the two separate entrances in the foyer; this may be another way to get a semi-detached dwelling. He is also concerned that this application may lead to the widening of Strouds Lane. He opposes this application. 3. Sylvia Spencer, 771 Sheppard Avenue, asked if the accessory unit could be used for a home based business. 4. Mark Zwicker, the applicant, stated that he sees this development as a single-detached dwelling. His parents would use the accessory unit and the separate entrance is to respect the privacy of his parents. 5. Valerie Rodrigues, Senior Planner, stated that home based businesses will be regulated by by-law. 6 (VI) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 2/98 LONDON MALL LIMITED (1201262 ONTARIO INC.) SOUTH PART OF LOT 15, RANGE 3, B.F.C. • (NORTH SIDE OF THE FUTURE EASTERLY TERMINUS OF CLEMENTS ROAD). 1. Valerie Rodrigues, Senior Planner, provided an explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #8/98. • 2. Vidya Aggarwal, representing the applicant, stated that there is no such service in the area to offer to truckers. He has a similar operation at Dixie Road and .Highway 401 and it operates well and is clean. 3. Michael Goldberg, representing Runneymede Corporation, stated that his client owns much of the lands to the east of Squires Beach Road and north of Clements Road. This area is very different from the rest of the industrial area in that it is more like a business park that has architectural features and no outside storage. This application could set the tone or lend an impression that will have a deleterious effect on his client's land. The subject lands are 16 acres in size that will have parking, trucks, exposed fuel tanks and non-descript buildings. There is no need for the applicant to enhance the property and landscaping and other site plan features would not mitigate this use. He asked that this application be denied. 4. Vidya Aggarwal, representing the applicant, stated that outside storage is already allowed. He noted that the subject lands are at the boundary of the Town and that trucks will park on public roads if there is no place for them to go. He noted that there will be architectural features implemented on the property. (IV) ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m. Dated 0/4-R C t-/ 2, / 9 Clerk • • •