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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/20/1995 STATUTORY PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING MINUTES -... A Statutory Public Information Meeting was held on Thursday, April 20, 1995 at 7:00 p.m in the Council Chambers. PRESENT: Councillor F arr - Chairman ALSO PRESENT: B. Taylor L. Taylor J. Cole - Town Clerk - Manager, Current Operations Division - Planner II (I) DRAFT PLAN OF SUBDIVISION 18T -94022 -~ ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 20/94 DARE-DALE DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED LOT 93, PLAN 1051 (NORTHEAST CORNER OF FAIRPORT ROAD AND BONITA AVENUE - - and - - DRAFT PLAN OF SUBDIVISION 18T -94023 ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 4/94 KELECK INVESTMENTS INCORPORATED (FORMERLY R. STROUD) PART OF LOT 20, PLAN 819, AND PART OF LOTS 61 & 62, PLAN 1041 (FAIRPORT ROAD AND STROUDS LANE) 1. An explanation of the above applications, as outlined in Information Reports #11/95 and #12/95, was given by Jeff Cole, Planner II. The two applications were considered together because they were in the same neighbourhood and residents could comment on the two applications together. =-. 2. Jim Retinger, representing Dare-Dale Developments Limited, stated that he is aware that residents are concerned with development in this neighbourhood. He is trying to maintain 45 foot lots on Fairport Road which is in conformity with existing development on Fairport Road and provide 10.5 metre lots in the interior of the subdivision which is consistent with development to the north and east of the subject lands. 3. Ted Cieciura, representing Keleck Investment Incorporated, was present to answer any questions. 4. Sylvia Spencer, 771 Sheppard Avenue, asked how many children would be generated from these developments, where the nearest park is located, if tot lots would be developed and if the Town would be taking cash-in-lieu of parkland. She also asked if there could be a land freeze. 5. Jeff Cole, Planner II, responded that there are three schools and parks in the area. He also noted that the Town's Department of Parks and Facilities is requesting - ..... parkland at the southeast comer of Bonita Avenue and Fairport Road. .. . ./2 ... ... ~ ~ --2-- 6. Phil Dubois, 975 Gablehurst Crescent, asked if Gablehurst Crescent would connect to the proposed street in the Dare-Dale application. Traffic on Fairport Road is heavy during rush hours and he is concerned that a link up of these roads will attract traffic looking for a short cut. 7. Richard Lake, 947 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that it is not good planning to connect Gablehurst Crescent to the proposed street in the Dare-Dale application. He and his neighbours were of the impressions that Gablehurst Crescent was built to be a crescent. The park at William Dunbar Public School is already heavily used and a park is needed in the area for younger children. 8. Mrs. McLaughlin, representing her parents who reside at 1841 Fairport Road, stated that lot sizes are too small and do not comply with the existing neighbourhood. Traffic is already very heavy and there is currently too much noise in the area. The lots fronting onto Fairport Road should be fifteen metres in width and be much deeper. She noted that this application will set a precedent for future development. 9. Craig Bamford, representing the Liverpool West Community Association, stated that these applications are part of a development that was proposed in 1989. He is concerned about extending the densities found in the John Boddy subdivision south of Brookshire Square. The existing large lots should continue south along Fairport Road to Bonita Avenue. He stated that the Dare-Dale application is not in character with the surrounding lots. He asked why there is a road access from Bonita Avenue into the Dare-Dale application, how this road will continue and ifit will connect to Brookshire Square. All matters such as parks, schools, etc. must be considered and urged those residents in attendance to attend a Town-sponsored workshop on Saturday, April 22nd to discuss future development in this neighbourhood. With respect to the Keleck application, he stated that he is glad there are large lots in this development and that it shows good faith on behalf of the developer. The Town should encourage pedestrian access onto Fairport Road to access busses and other municipal services. The lots fronting onto Fairport Road should be deeper and the lots fronting onto Strouds Lane should be wider because they are not in conformity with existing development. The lots on Street A should match those lots existing on Spruce Hill Road. 10. Gordon Glibbery, 949 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that he is opposed to the proposed road in the Dare-Dale development connecting to Gablehurst Crescent. He is glad to see that Fairport Road is being upgraded. There is a certain exclusiveness to living in a John Boddy development but a road connection between Gablehurst Crescent and the proposed road in the Dare-Dale development would devalue properties. A walkway from Gablehurst Crescent to the proposed road in the Dare-Dale development may be an alternative. 11. Janice Frampton, 1810 Post Drive, stated that traffic is an issue in Ward 1 and both these developments would aggravate that problem People bought in this neighbourhood for a specific reason; they wanted large, deep lots and these developments are not in character with the existing development. 12. Steve Kentho~ 1882 Appleview Road, asked how far east the developer went to find 7.5 metre lots that would compare with lots in the Dare-Dale development. He felt that this development should not be compared with lands to the east. Traffic already speeds on Fairport Road and Appleview Road and a connection between the Dare-Dale development and Gablehurst Crescent will only add to traffic. .. .. /3 --3-- '-" 13. Evan MacLeod, 959 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that he is opposed to a road connection between the Dare-Dale development and Gablehurst Crescent. He stated that traffic and people are being added to the area but no new parks, schools or road improvements are being contemplated. 14. John Tonna, 1917 Bonita Avenue, stated that both applications are not in character with the existing neighbourhood. 15. Patrick Duffield, 1825 Fairport Road, stated that he opposed a similar application one year ago and noted that this application will pollute a creek. 16. Maria Javor, 872 Strouds Lane, stated that traffic is very heavy on Strouds Lane because of people taking shortcuts. The Keleck application will add to the traffic problem and she noted that the lots fronting onto Strouds Lane should have fifty foot frontages. 17. Garry Prevoe, 912 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that he is opposed to Gablehurst Crescent connecting to the proposed road in the Dare-Dale application. When he bought his house, he was told that Gablehurst would only be a crescent. '-" 18. Lynn Holmes, 1977 Fairport Road, asked why the area residents were not notified that the watercourse that crosses Fairport Road was relocated. She is concerned that the lands on the east side of Fairport Road, south of Bonita Avenue, will be developed. The property at the southeast corner of Fairport Road and Bonita Avenue is a good location for parkland. The lots in both applications are too small and dense for the area and are not in character with the existing neighbourhood. Approval of these applications will set a poor precedent for future development. 19. Rod Lawrence, 910 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that when he bought his house, he was promised that Gablehurst would be a crescent. If Gablehurst Crescent is connected to the proposed road in the Dare-Dale application, people will speed on that street. He inquired into the status of the development blocks in the Dare-Dale application. 20. Patrick Duffield, 1825 Fairport Road, asked how the watercourse could have been relocated without notifYing him. ...... 21. Dom Salvagna, 1927 Bonita Avenue, stated that the Dare-Dale application is not in character with the existing neighbourhood. The community should have a similar appearance throughout and there should be a park at the southeast comer of Bonita Avenue and Fairport Road. 22. Jim Young, 1843 Spruce Hill Road, stated that with respect to the Keleck application, it is not in character with the existing neighbourhood on Fairport Road. There are not enough schools in the area and he was concerned that the Boards of Education did not comment on these applications. There are few recreational areas in the neighbourhood for teens and young children and stated that the developer should comply with the existing lot sizes. 23. Greg Wallace, 1772 Spruce Hill Road, stated that with respect to the Keleck application, the neighbourhood does not want smaller lots and the developers should be told this. There is no parkland in the area and 13.7 metre lots should not be considered as large lots. '-" ..../4 --4-- '-'" 24. Mark Traill, 945 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that he agrees with the comments of the previous speakers. The John Boddy subdivision is a good example of what is needed and he is opposed to a road connection between Gablehurst Crescent and the proposed road in the Dare-Dale development. 25. Debbie Monaco, 971 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that there are about forty children living on Gablehurst Crescent and she was told when she bought her home that it would remain a crescent. 26. Maria Javor, 872 Strouds Lane, is opposed to small lots in the Keleck proposal. She reported that she had great difficulty getting a land severance to create a :fifty foot lot. 27. An unidentified man reported that trees were cut down on the lands subject to the Keleck application and on lands adjacent to the Dare-Dale application. 28. Sylvia Spencer, 771 Sheppard Avenue, asked if the lands subject to both applications would be eligible for quattroplexes. ...... 29. Richard Lake 947 Gablehurst Crescent, stated that residents in the John Boddy subdivision pay a lot of property taxes for schools and yet none are built to serve their needs. 30. Jeff Retinger, representing Dare-Dale Development Limited, stated that the problems with the schools must be brought to the attention of the Boards of Education. He is not proposing to connect the proposed road in the Dare-Dale application to Gablehurst Crescent; the street could be cul-de-saced within the boundaries of the subject lands. The planning concerns must be addressed to the overall community. The original planning of the area was based on properties being serviced by septic systems and that is why the original zoning was for larger lots but noted that sanitary sewers allow for smaller lots. 31. Ted Cieciura, representing Keleck Investments Incorporated, stated that many issues need to be discussed at the Workshop on Saturday, April 22nd but that development in the area is inevitable. '-'" 32. Jeff Cole, Planner II, stated that the purpose of this meeting was for staff and the applicants to hear the concerns of the area residents. The meeting on Saturday, April 22nd will allow people to get involved in the overall plans and guidelines for development of the neighbourhood. (IV) ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at the hour of 8:40 p.m Dated A P ({TI- 25- 1'1 / ~--- I L " r 'Wi Clerk