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Minutes
WATERFRONT COORDINATING COMMITTEE
January 17, 2008
7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees:
Councillor O'Connell, Chair
Councillor Dickerson, Vice-Chair
Mayor Ryan (attended for part of the meeting)
Craig Bamford
Jim Dike
Pat Korol
David Steele
Kevin Tower
Marla Shim
Linda Roberts, (Recording Secretary)
Regrets:
Chandra Gocool
Steve Holt
David Stone
Also Present:
Professor Mathew Wells, University of Toronto
Larry Field, TRCA
Allan May, Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club
Chris Walker, Ontario Power Generation
Richard Holborn, Division Head, Municipal Property & Engineering
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1.0 Welcome & Introductions
Councillor O'Connell welcomed eve one to the meetin
2.0 Approval of Minutes
Moved by Craig Bamford
Seconded by Councillor Dickerson
That the minutes of the November 21, 2007 meeting be
approved.
Carried
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3.0 Professor Mathew Wells
Re: Frenchman's Bav Study
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Professor Wells, University of Toronto appeared before the
Committee and provided an update with respect to the
Frenchman's Bay Study which was conducted in 2007. He
provided handouts to the Committee. He outlined the findings in
the report, providing an explanation of the various findings. A
discussion session ensued, with Professor Wells present to
answer questions. The following points were discussed:
. Exchange flow and water level fluctuations
. no oxygen in patches of water - dead fish on surface
. distribution of salt in Bay - how much is entering the Bay
. how long water stays in Bay
. spray fountain - would this help put oxygen back in
. if you can reduce the concentration of nutrients in the Bay,
you can increase the rate of flushing out of the Bay
. possible to calculate how long it would take to flush if we
widened the Bay and would it make a difference- better to
reduce nutrients entering the Bay
. discussion on how best to help flush the Bay
. worst water quality is in the North end of the Bay - this is
where most of the nutrients and sediments are entering
. siltation is a problem, lack of fish habitat
. temperature differences
. should look at Lake Ontario water quality better - make it
flush around at the top - distribute better?
. if we widen the entrance of the Bay, what is the impact on
dredging costs? Would it help with flushing out? How wide
does it need to go to have an impact
. siltration from Lake Ontario into the Bay
· flush & dilute - would this slow down siltation?
. would increasing the depth allow for oxygen improvement
It was questioned whether there were professionals we could
contact to assist with the oxygen issue. The problem is not just
water quality, but structural habitat for fish as well.
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Discussion ensued on how to connect the trails between the two
spits, as this will impact on going forward. We need to consider
both the trails and water quality.
Mayor Ryan noted the need to look at all aspects of the
waterfront and to take into account the water quality and the
future of the trail system going right across and forming a link
with neighbours to the east and west.
Discussion ensued with respect to what the Committee needs to
look at now:
. entrance
· health of the bay (include stormwater management plan)
. trail system
. should be a connection to east and west spit
. long term planning of our options - decide what we can
afford at the present time
Stakeholders - to bring together ideas and financial realities, then
bring forward recommendations to Council
Discussion ensued with respect to the impact of the future plans
for Seaton lands. What is the community benefit, water quality in
Seaton
Professor Wells noted that he hopes to pursue future studies in
Frenchman's Bay.
Moved by Craig Bamford
Seconded by Jim Dike
1. That the report from Professor Wells entitled "Residence
timescales and the underlying hydrodynamic processes in
Frenchman's Bay, a Lake Ontario coastal embayment" be
received for information;
2. That the City Clerk be required to send a letter of appreciation
to Professor Wells for the work completed to date; and
3. That a copy of the report be sent to the Toronto and Region
Conservation Authority and Ontario Power Generation.
Carried
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4.0 Frenchman's Bay Master Plan
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Councillor O'Connell provided a brief overview of the
Frenchman's Bay Master Plan and explained that the City needs
an official position of the Waterfront Committee for report
purposes. Councillor O'Connell welcomed Richard Holborn,
Division Head, Municipal Property & Engineering to the meeting
and opened the floor for discussion.
Discussion ensued with respect to Federal and Provincial issues
relating to this and the following points being made:
. mandate of the Ministry - cannot impede fish passage
. cannot cut off watershed to fisheries, would need to
compensate elsewhere
. north and southwest areas are significant wetland - major
policy issue
. limited on what can be done due to these restraints
. lots of detail work to be done
. imperative to continue with minor work on a regular basis
in order to see significant changes
. maximize fish habitat and regenerate at minimal cost
. ensure good flow through Crosno Creek
. look at options for Monarch Trail
. possible education centre at the head of the Bay
It was questioned what was proposed on the north side of Krosno
Boulevard at the parkette. It was also questioned whether the
study had taken into account what has been completed with the
bridge.
Richard explained how the different projects will work and the
processes and approvals involved.
Larry Field (TRCA) suggested that the Committee look at what
Council had already endorsed with respect to the Waterfront.
The layout of this is available at the Pickering Civic Complex.
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5.0 Other Business
5.1 Jim Dike offered the use of his runabout this Spring to take
the members around the Bay in order to get a different
perspective of the Waterfront.
5.2 Councillor O'Connell informed the Committee that she had
received a request from a resident on Elvira Court to widen
the sidewalk due to safety concerns with residents using the
trail.
5.3 Craig Bamford complimented the City for the work done on
the signs in Petticoat Creek area.
5.4 Approval of the 2008 meeting schedule:
Moved by Jim Dike
Seconded by Kevin Tower
That the 2008 Meeting Schedule be approved, save and except
the March date changed to March 20th, 2008.
Carried
6.0 Next Meeting:
February 21,2008
Main Committee Room
7:00 pm
Meeting Adjourned 9:10 pm
Copy: Members of Council
Chief Administrative Officer
Directors
Division Heads
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