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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 22, 2015 Page 1 Minutes Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee Meeting April 22, 2015 7:00 pm Tower Room Attendees: J. Calder J. Dempsey W. Jamadar D. Joyce T. Reimer M. Sawchuck C. Sopher J. Van Huss C. Celebre, Senior Planner, Development Review & Heritage L. Roberts, Recording Secretary Absent: K. Borisko Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate) 1.0 Welcome C. Celebre welcomed everyone to the meeting. 2.0 Approval of Agenda/Minutes Moved by J. Calder C. Celebre requested that the Heritage Permit Approval Process be added to the agenda. Carried Discussion ensued with respect to the section of the March 25th minutes dealing with the heritage permit application for 3117 Gladstone Street. C. Sopher noted he felt there was not a general agreement among members regarding staff recommendations. C. Celebre explained to the Committee that members must express any concerns with applications at the time the application is being considered by the Committee. She advised that for future Heritage Permit applications members will vote on a motion. Discussion also ensued with respect to timelines to provide members with adequate time to review applications. It was suggested one week would be sufficient, with the possibility of Page 2 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate) holding special meetings as required to review applications. It was also suggested that members visit the heritage permit sites. C. Celebre advised that if possible, arrangements could be made with the owner for members to go on the property and tour the site. Additionally, it was suggested that a member of the Committee be appointed to photograph the property (from the street) and present the pictures to the members at the meeting. Moved by W. Jamadar That the minutes of the March 25, 2015 meeting of the Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee be approved. Carried 3.0 Business Arising from Minutes 3.1) Work Plan Updates Work plan updates were provided as follows: C. Celebre provided the following update; Class B Environmental Assessment  Staff preparing a report to Council which includes Committee’s recommendations on the properties proposed for demolition presented at the April Heritage Pickering Advisory Special Meeting.  Have received a number of comments which will be incorporated into the report for Council’s consideration.  As recommended by the HAC documentation for the recommended designations may be presented to Council in June.  The consultant had visited the two Whitevale properties, 498 and 650 Whitevale Road and will proceed with full assessment reports and will be presented to the Committee. Seaton Heritage Assessment  Consultant has been retained to prepare heritage assessments for the 10 heritage lots in Seaton  Will bring forward further reports to the Committee at separate meetings in groups of 3 or 4  C. Celebre will be meeting with the consultant next week  Plans are to present some to the Committee by the Fall of 2015 in order to proceed to Council  An overall total of 20 – 25 properties are being reviewed in Seaton by the City Page 3 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate) Discussion period ensued. C. Sopher questioned whether the two cemeteries along Whitevale Road were protected, Hastings and Lamoreaux. C. Celebre to look into. C. Celebre noted that focus should be on the Whitevale corridor, the properties which are adjacent to future development. This may provide for opportunities for other uses in the event they are sold. Questions were raised with respect to the guidelines for evaluating Provincial properties. M. Sawchuck provided clarification with respect to the framework for evaluation in determining heritage significance. Doors Open C. Celebre provided members with a brochure produced by Ontario Heritage Trust, showing all municipalities participating in 2015. She noted a full list of sites can be viewed on the website. She indicated the sub-committee is currently working on the list of participants, with the focus on Claremont this year, which will include a walking tour. The theme this year is “Sports & Heritage”. Register M. Sawchuck provided an update on the Register;  440 properties on the register have been incorporated into a consolidated document.  Numerous properties which have been demolished will need to be removed.  Currently 2/3 through completion of photographing properties – 292 have photos with 150 still required.  Rural properties difficult to view, but should still try.  Will bring list to next meeting to break up among members.  Flickr is difficult to reorganize, so have created albums with various categories which is almost complete, approximately 100 properties to go.  C. Celebre noted she would provide members with passwords for Flickr.  Need to list and categorize the properties for assessment .  Bring forward an official register for Council approval which will allow more time in the event of demolitions. C. Celebre to action Page 4 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate)  Google maps not worth the time, especially if some properties are being removed.  Future plans to link in with City’s website.  Target dates on work plan seem appropriate. Discussion period ensued. C. Sopher questioned whether cultural designations were being looked at. T. Reimer suggested finding people of significance first, then tracking down their properties. J. Van Huss noted the Pickering Library has a great resource section, with historical books on Pickering’s original settlers. Other research areas such as digital archives as well as the draft listing created by John Sabean were also suggested. Discussion continued with respect to the value in listing a property in which a modern structure has replaced the previous heritage building. It was suggested that a commemorative plaque could be installed in order to commemorate the historical significance of the previous building or residents. M. Sawchuk discussed the value in taking on a project with results that can be seen firsthand. Members were provided with a photo of a tunnel on Bayly, referred to as the “Hole in the Wall”, and is the property of Canadian National (CN). He explained the historical significance related to this, noting it could be a worthwhile project to take on, possibly in conjunction with an historical society. He did note that given the ownership of this, it could be a liability as they may not be receptive. It could, however, be good PR for the Committee as well as the City of Pickering. It was also suggested that should permission not be given to proceed with this as a project, possibly have a commemorative plaque placed along the Waterfront Trail. It was also suggested that area Council members be contacted for support. It was recommended this be added to the 2015 work plan. Individual Designations C. Celebre suggested that in the event members come across any properties of interest, to please let her know. Research can be conducted through Pickering Ajax Digital Archives (PADA) as well as the Pickering Library. Page 5 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate) Training C. Celebre noted this would be an ongoing item. J. Van Huss noted she would continue to inform members of any webinars, and C. Celebre noted she would provide info as well. T. Reimer questioned the possibility of putting together a calendar of heritage properties as a fundraising initiative. It was suggested that only the designated properties should be considered. It was noted that City regulations would have to be considered. C. Celebre noted she would look into required City approvals in this regard. Heritage Permit and Building Permit Applications C. Celebre noted she had met with the Chief Building Official and Building Clerk to discuss the Committee’s involvement with heritage permits. One of the options noted was to flag all heritage properties in the City’s Amanda system to keep heritage staff aware of the progress. It was also suggested that a heritage permit sign be installed on the site as well to provide awareness of the heritage work. Concerns were raised among members with respect to any recourse for non-compliance with the permit as well as control measures when a permit is not required to undertake certain work. There were no updates at this time for Website Improvements or the Heritage Plaque Program. J. Van Huss/C. Celebre to action C. Celebre to action 4.0 New Business 4.1) Review 2014 Accomplishments and 2015 Work Plan C. Celebre provided members with a draft memo of the Committee’s 2014 Year End Report and 2015 Work plan for submission to Council. Discussion ensued with the following additions to the work plan being suggested;  Mattamy Homes donation of salvaged items – note that some items went to the Mary Christian Home  Include the number of sites photographed  Continue to photograph properties Page 6 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate)  Add in “Hole in the Wall” as a possible project on the work plan Moved by C. Sopher That the draft memo be approved with the above additions being included in the 2015 work plan as well as the number of properties photographed by members included in the 2014 achievements. Carried Discussion ensued regarding the possibility of updating the Whtievale Heritage Conservation District Guidelines to make the wording stronger etc. C. Celebre advised that this would take some time. Discussion ensued regarding the salvaged beams. C. Celebre noted that sketches and photographs had been completed, but that dating of the beams had not. It was noted that previously it had been suggested that U of T students could assist with this. 4.2) Heritage Permit Process C. Celebre provided an overview of the heritage district permit approval process, which is part of the Whitevale District Conservation District Guidelines approved by Council. C. Celebre outlined the various types of applications, explaining the overall process for each. She noted the need for updating these, in particular the timelines. Discussion ensued and it was questioned how changes not requiring permits would be addressed, as well as the process for making changes to the guidelines. Concerns were also noted for timelines. It was noted that while the guidelines exist to protect properties, changes are required to strengthen the language in the guidelines, as they are currently unclear and open to interpretation. C. Celebre to action 5.0 Correspondence 5.1) Randy Wood Correspondence from Randy Wood with respect to floor finishing was received for information. Page 7 Item / Ref # Details & Discussion & Conclusion (summary of discussion) Action Items / Status (include deadline as appropriate) 5.2) Whitevale and District Residents’ Association Correspondence received from Whitevale and District Residents’ Association regarding the Built Heritage in Seaton was received for information. 5.3) C. Celebre provided members with copies of the CHO publication. 6.0 Next Meeting/Adjournment Next Meeting: May 27 – Main Committee Room The meeting adjourned at 8:20 pm. Copy: City Clerk