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City 00 Minutes/Meeting Summary AAQ. Site Plan Committee (SPC) Meeting
i i October 28, 2009
PI CK RI 4:45 pm
Tower Meeting Room
Attendees: Mayor Ryan
Doug Dickerson - City Councillor - Ward 2
David Pickles - City Councillor - Ward 3
Jennifer O'Connell - City Councillor - Ward 1
Neil Carroll, Director, Planning & Development
Lynda Taylor, Manager, Development Review
Tyler Barnett, Senior Planner - Site Planning
Absent:
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Claremont General Store Preliminary Proposal
1703-1707 Central Street
Attendee(s) John Owen (Owen Design)
Mr. Daniel Park owner
The preliminary plans are to rebuild the general store and
associated uses that were destroyed by fire. Minor variances
are required to implement the proposed redevelopment.
• Neil
- Owner is attempting to provide commercial space back
into community with a similar character to the initial
development
- P&D have worked with the applicant to identify required
variances and consider this a special situation that can
appropriately be considered by the Committee of
Adjustment
- providing opportunity for SPC to see the proposal prior to
variance application being brought forward to the
Committee of Adjustment (C of A). SPC will still see the
site plan application through the formal review process
- providing heritage architectural elements in replacement
building even though initial building was not a designated
heritage structure
• Fred Parsons pre-consulted with City staff at outset of
project
• Councillor Dickerson - noted his understanding that an
owner could rebuild a structure destroyed by fire, without
regard for zoning compliance
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Item / Details & Discussion & Conclusion Action Items''I Status
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• Tyler - zoning by-law special provision only. permits
restoration to safe condition; however if more than 60%
destroyed by fire, requires compliance to by-law
• Councillor Dickerson - no major concern at this time, will
comment further when formal site plan brought to
Committee for review
• Tyler - any C of A conditions will be tied to the presented
proposal with a time limit to complete
• Neil - some accessibility parking concerns to -be reviewed
further
• Councillor Dickerson - consider discussing accessible
parking space on Regional road allowance (Central Street)
with the Region of Durham
• Councillor Pickles - are the previous residential dwelling
units proposed to be reintroduced and do they require C of
A approval. Two apartment units are proposed on the
second floor to replace the two residential units that
previously existed. They are to be included in the C of A
application as current zoning does not permit residential
use
• Tyler - outlined current proposal and Neil explained
southerly abutting neighbours' concern respecting
demolition work and site redevelopment
• Tyler - outlined variances required
• Councillor Pickles - requested P&D staff touch base with
Councillor Johnson to outline preliminary proposal
Applicants joined meeting
• Councillor Dickerson - understand intent of redevelopment
and need for C of A and in general support of variances
• John Owen
- explained matters to be addressed through C of A
trying to generally match floor area of what existed prior
to fire
- respecting side yard as best as possible
- building to have mix of materials to be sympathetic to
the Hamlet character
- pervious ground treatment materials are being proposed
to assist with stormwater (turf block)
- access to refuse pick-up area was discussed, including
conflict with parking spaces (J. Owen noted that
refuse pick-up schedule would be arranged to as to
avoid conflict with residential parking use)
• Councillors discussed refuse pick up (mid day) to avoid
conflict.with tenant parking and impact on easterly abutting
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Item / Details & Discussion & Conclusion Action Items /Status
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neighbour
• Neil - questioned size of refuse bin
• John Owen - one for refuse, one for recycle, perhaps roll
out to curb for pickup
• Councillor Dickerson - questioned area of sewage holding
tank and opportunity for additional parking in south yard
• Neil - noted that south yard is also providing landscaped
area for residential tenants, including the land over the
holding tank area Tyler to discuss with
• Councillor Dickerson - requested that staff consult with Regional staff
Regional Works Department to discuss consideration of
providing parallel parking on Central street
• Mr. Park - may be opportunity for improved on-street
parking due to greater setback from road provided by
replacement building
• Councillor Pickles - where were tenants parking
previously?
• Mr. Park - north portion of site
• Neil - neighbours to east and south will have increased
building separation from what existed prior to fire
• Councillor Dickerson - questioned what other sustainable
elements have been incorporated into the project (other
than permeable turf block)
• John Owen . Neil Carroll will
- no leaching bed in this proposal (holding tank now) speak to Councillor
- insulation efficiency Johnson and advise
- boilers/radiant heat
- reclaimed brick of Committee
Councillor Dickerson - need to consider other sustainable position
building elements and provide list of these elements with
the application when formally submitted for SPA
• John Owen
- need to be conscious.of impacts of solar panels/sky light
locations to ensure they do not detract from historical
elements
- anticipate April start for project, with 3-4 month
construction time period.
• Committee consensus -proposal is in right direction and no
concern with variance applications to the C of A
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Pickering Town Centre office Building
1355 Kingston Road
Attendee(s): George Shilletto (IBI/YW)
James Byck (Urban
Bruno Bartel (20 VIC)
Ron Taylor joined meeting
Applicant attended to provide an update on the proposed office
tower on the Pickering Town Centre lands and the pedestrian
bridge and GO parking garage (staging, construction,
conditional permits and/or conditional site plan approval).
• Neil Carroll - IBI/YW/Urban Con and 20 VIC here to
address certain concerns expressed at SPC of
July 22, 2009 and provide update to SPC on the project
status and timing.
• It was clarified to SPC that the design and construction of
the bridge was now under the control of GO/Metrolinx, and
that while the City's input would continue to be sought, the
project was not subject to site plan approval
• George
- provided overview of how project fits into the bigger
picture of the City's downtown
discussed (using display boards) overall development
study it has been involved in with City for downtown
core/land uses of Civic Precinct, downtown south core,
Pickering Town Centre (PTC) site & MTO site
- proposed MPAC office building provides immediate
opportunity to realize a first step in the transition of PTC
and the emerging downtown master plan. Even greater
opportunity now presented with pedestrian bridge and
GO parking structure
- mobility hub possibility now with pedestrian bridge, GO
parking, regional bus service; City bus passenger pick up
and drop off
- proposal part of larger strategy for PTC expansion(s) for
street grid environment
- good opportunity for improved pedestrian
movement/connections (PTC building itself serves as
pedestrian-internal connections)
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Item / Details & Discussion & Conclusion Action Items /Status
Ref # (summary of discussion) (include deadline as
appropriate)
• Bruno
- outlined office proposal history and discussed MPAC
desire to move onto PTC site, and the amount of floor
space to be developed on `spec' by 20 VIC
- aware of build to zone and opportunity for
retail/commercial space at grade
- leasing opportunities may increase with bridge
connection
- 20 VIC has a meeting with GO on Friday,
October 30, 2009 to discuss connection to office building
- The pedestrian bridge will connect to the office building,
just not sure whether the connection will be formal
landing location for the bridge or a appendage to the
main bridge structure. A preference to have the bridge
terminate into the office building has been expressed by
20 VIC however that decision rests with GO transit
- even if bridge lands on road allowance, the office tower
and bridge will be linked as per the terms of 20 VIC's
lease agreement
- a central landing of bridge on the road allowance will
allow for future connections to future buildings along
Pickering Parkway and internal to PTC.
• Ron advised Y&1MIB1 has been retained by the City to
review opportunities for the redesign of Pickering Parkway
to accommodate objectives of mobility hub as designated
by Metrolinx and the City's Downtown Core Guidelines
(on-street parking, kiss and ride, transit stops and lay-by
etc.)
• Neil - advised the office building has recently been
registered for LEED Silver
• Councillor Dickerson - concept coming together, main
concern for ultimate future development of City downtown
• Councillor O'Connell - remember to circulate site plan to
Accessibility Committee
• Councillor Pickles - questioned elevator needs/function of
bridge landing and office tower
• George
- Yes elevator to be provided for main bridge landing in
either scenario.
- Committee members expressed concern that
employees cannot enter the MPAC building directly from
the bridge, but must go outside at grade to enter the
building.
- Bruno explained that the physical separation of
commuters from the MPAC office building (no direct
access is a security requirement of MPAC.
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Item / Details & Discussion & Conclusion Action Items /Status
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appropriate)
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The Committee expressed concern that if the main
landing (with elevator) for bridge is freestanding in the
Pickering Parkway boulevard and not fully integrated
with the office building, but is connected to the office by
an appendage to the bridge, then physically challenged
persons on-route to the office building/commercial/retail
will not be able to get to grade at the end of the bridge
as there will only be stairs and not another elevator.
This was considered to be unfair, if not contrary to
accessibility requirements. This design would require
disabled persons to use the elevator in the more distant
main bridge landing to access grade, and to travel
outdoors to the office building/commercial floor space.
• George - prefers main bridge landing to be fully integrated
with office building which would address this concern,
however design decision for bridge landing is with GO
• Committee members requested that this matter receive
more consideration and were not supportive of design that
discriminated against mobility challenged persons.
• Bruno provided a breakdown of the 10 storey office building
- The 1St floor will accommodate MPAC space and
retail/commercial space
- The 2nd and 3rd floors will be for parking (as a layer of the
office building) .
- The 4t" and 5t floors are vacant office space being built
`on spec' by 20 VIC
- The remaining floors will be occupied by Municipal
Property and Assessment Corporation (a portion of the
10 floor will house mechanical equipment).
- 20 VIC is to provide MPAC occupancy in 2011
Neil - in order to accommodate the tight building
completion time frames for MPAC, construction will have to
proceed in an incremental manner, with some site plan
details being resolved as the project advances
• Councillor. Pickles -project has improved since previous
discussion--- looking forward to formal submission and
discussion at Committee
• Neil
- incremental approvals as development proceeds
- hope to finalize site plan within 1 month and to receive
final determination on bridge landing location from GO in
the very near future
- need to begin `core' of building to meet MPAC
occupancy time frame
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Item / Details & Discussion & Conclusion Action Items / Status
Ref # (summary of discussion) (include' deadline as
appropriate)
• George - GO acknowledges need to move quickly with
bridge
• Ron
- bridge needs to be substantially completed by March
2011
- also will meet with ACOM to discuss City comments
respecting the bridge design now that ACOM is working
with GO
• James - site plan is still evolving and will continue to
involve Site Plan Committee
Ron - reviewing urban treatment of Pickering Parkway from
Glenanna to Liverpool Road-we will inform Committee on
this project as it evolves.
Meeting Adjourned: 6:50 pm
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