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STATUTORY PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING MINUTES
,-". A Statutory Public Information Meeting was held on Thursday, February 16, 1995 at 7:00
p.m in the Council Chambers.
PRESENT:
Councillor Pistritto - Chairman
ALSO PRESENT:
B. Taylor
L. Taylor
V. Rodrigues
H. Gardiner
A Smith
S.Hill
- Town Clerk
- Manager, Current Operations Division
- Senior Planner
- Planner I
- Planner I
- Planning Technician IT
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(I) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A30/87(R)
JOSE DE LA TORRE & SHIRLEY COPPS
PART OF LOTS 1 AND 2, PLAN 350
(SOUTHWEST CORNER OF KINGSTON RD AND ROUGEMOUNT DR)
1. An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #6/95, was
given by Valerie Rodrigues, Senior Planner.
2. Bryan Davies, representing the applicant, stated that he has studied Information
Report #6/95 and was present to hear comments and answer questions.
3.
Frank Kerr, Dalewood Drive, asked if one of the present permitted uses of the
subject lands was a donut shop. He was concerned that at this location in
conjunction with other donut shops in the area will attract traffic down Dalewood
Drive and Brookridge Gate to conveniently pick up donuts. He asked for a
definition of a private club because if it includes a pool hall or a similar type of
operation, he is opposed to that use. Mr. Kerr felt that there are already many
donut shops in the area and that they should be protected from further
competition. He indicated that he spoke to a senior official of Coffee Time Donuts
who assured him that their company would not be establishing a donut shop at
Kingston Road and Rougemount Drive.
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4. Alan May, representing the Dalebrook Neighbourhood Association, stated that at
the last meeting of his Association, this issue was discussed and the residents
stated their concern about traffic flowing through their neighbourhood. The
residents were under the impression that a donut shop has been approved at the
northeast comer of Kingston Road and Rougemount Drive and that a second
donut shop on the subject lands would be too much. The residents are concerned
about a private or public club being a permitted use, however, they would not
object to such a use if the term "social" was removed from the definition.
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5. George Papadopoulos, representing Coffee Time Donuts, stated that his company
has selected the subject lands to establish a donut shop because it is economically
viable. Coffee Time Donuts sells more products than just donuts and its usage is
closer to that of a restaurant. This section of Kingston Road is highly traveled and
cars can enter and exit the site with little problems. He noted that his company did
get an inquiry from the public who asked if Coffee Time Donuts was going to
establish a shop at the northeast corner of Kingston Road and Rougemount Drive
and they were informed that this was not the case.
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6. Bryan Davies, representing the applicant, stated that the staff report addresses the
concerns about drainage and parking on the subject lands and he noted that the
Department of Public Works had no concerns about parking or traffic in the area.
7.
Councillor Brenner stated that he was asked to comment on this application by the
residents at the south end of Rougemount Drive and the owners of businesses in
the plazas at the north and southeast corners of Kingston Road and Rougemount
Drive. He noted that there will be a negative impact on traffic at the intersection
of Kingston Road and Rougemount Drive when traffic is combined with cars
exiting from the plaza at the southeast corner. Other donut shops in the area are
concerned that they were established with the zoning already in place. Councillor
Brenner noted that Council did consider at by-law to rezone the subject lands to
permit a donut shop in 1988 but only two readings were given to this by-law.
8. Valerie Rodrigues, Senior Planner, noted that further study of the parking on the
site must be carried out.
(ll) OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION 94-3/P
ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 1/94
R. WAGNER
PART OF LOT 7, CONCESSION 5
(SALEM ROAD. NORTH OF THE FIFTH CONCESSION ROAD)
1.
An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #5/95, was
given by Adrian Smith, Planner I.
2. Jack Lally, representing the applicant, stated that he has undertaken a
naturalization study to protect animal habitats and to attract more wildlife.
3. Bernard Woolford, Salem Road, stated that he is a neighbour of the applicant and
stated that Mr. Wagner is very conscientious and would do a good job on the golf
course. He was of the impression that the subject lands would be developed as a
large lot estate residential development but noted that he does support the
development of a nine hole golf course because it would not attract much traffic.
4.
Roger Glasco, Salem Road, Ajax, stated that he does not object to the
development of a golf course on the subject lands but he is concerned about water
levels and water quality. He stated that he raises cattle that needs water and
noticed that the water level in Carruthers Creek has gone down over the years. He
is also concerned that fertilizers from the golf course will leach into Carruthers
Creek and possibly pollute it. He asked why it is necessary to establish this golf
course when the Deer Creek Golf Course is less than a mile away.
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5. Brenda Jobe, 3295 Greenbum Place, stated that she is concerned about the water
level and that the Ministry of the Environment should be commenting on this. She
noted that by July of every year, there is no water in Carruthers Creek.
6. William Brown, Lot 7, Concession 5, stated that he lives to the south of the
subject lands and noted that due to the waste of the subject lands over the years,
the water levels in Carruthers Creek have been altered. He noted that the applicant
will be building ponds that are away from the creek and will not rely on water from
the creek. He does not object to the development of a golf course on condition
that it is not a large commercial venture.
7. Michael Head, 3340 Greenbum Place, stated that he is ambivalent about the
application but would like to know the results of the hydrogeology report.
8.
Randy Leavitt, 3315 Greenbum Place, stated that the development of a golf course
on the subject lands contravenes the wetland policies in the District Plan. He is
concerned that a golf course requires a large amount of water and during the dry
season, water would need to come from wells. He is concerned about the effect of
fertilizers and pesticides on Carruthers Creek and noted that some of the proposed
fairways, namely fairways six and seven, are very close to existing housing. If
water levels in the area drop, significant tax dollars would have to be spent to
provide water to the residents.
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9. Paul Bowen, Consulting Engineer, representing the applicant, stated that the
applicant only retained his services recently. Test drilling of water levels will be
carried out but preliminary tests show that water in the area is prevalent. He
outlined the approvals that are needed to irrigate lands from a well and noted that
several agencies such as the Ministry of Natural Resources and the Conservation
Authority must comment on water supply issues. He also noted that the process of
getting water for a golf course is very stringently regulated by the Ministry of the
Environment.
10.
Jack Lally, representing the applicant, stated that he does not intent to use
Carruthers Creek for the golf course because it is dry in July and August which is
when most watering takes place. The proposed development is for a nine hole golf
course that is inexpensive and easy and will be used to attract families. Only slow
release fertilizers are used on a golf course and these would not be put down if rain
was predicted because fertilizer is very expensive and rain would only wash it
away. He noted that government regulations state that there can be no mowing
next to the creek.
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(III) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 14/94
RA YBROOK HOLDINGS INC.
BLOCK DZ, PLAN M-16
(SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LIVERPOOL ROAD & BAYLY STREET)
1. An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #4/95, was
given by Sharon Hill, Planning Technician II.
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2. Harold Goldkin, representing the applicant, stated that over the past few years,
small service stations are being phased out because the oil companies want to
service the larger stations. The subject lands will be used as a retail site for selling
used cars and will have about 20 cars parked on the property at any given time.
He noted that once a small service station closes down, it is usually boarded up
and becomes messy, however, the applicant intends to keep the property viable and
the proposed use will be in conformity with lands in the area. The proposed use
will allow local residents a place to have their cars repaired and the new use will
generate less traffic. The owner has no long term plans for this property at this
time and noted that the proposed use is in conformity with the Official Plan.
3.
Roy Robinson, representing the Pickering East Shore Community Association,
stated that he is sympathetic to the applicants situation. He tried to sell a used car
from this location and the Shell station across the street but had no success. The
issue of the site being used to sell used cars on a temporary basis should not be
considered because this is a residential area and is not compatible for automobile
sales. The use of the property for professional offices would be better. He asked
how many cars would be on site, what the quality of those cars would be, and
what type of lighting and signs would be put on the property.
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4. Richard Ward, Box 5142, Claremont, stated that if there is a problem with fuel
sales, he would like to know. He noted that the applicant only wants to sell used
cars and repair vehicles. A large office has been approved at property on the
northwest comer of Liverpool Road and Bayly Street. This application will allow
the applicant to continue a use that is consistent with uses in the area.
5. Harold Goldkin, representing the applicant, stated that the applicant already
operates a well regulated used car sales lot in Scarborough. He hopes that his
business will be continued by his children. Matters such as lighting and signs on
the property are controlled by the municipality.
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(IV) ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 17/94
GARTHWOOD HOMES LIMITED
BLOCK 13-16, PLAN 40M-I719, BLOCKS 43-45, PLAN 40M-1700 AND
PART OF LOT 24, PLAN 329
(NORTH SIDE OF PINE GROVE AVE AT NORTH END OF OAKBURN ST)
1. An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report #3/95, was
given by Heather Gardiner, Planner I.
2. Christina Lazaridis, representing the applicant, stated that she was present to
answer any questions.
3. Richard Ward, Box 5142, Claremont, stated that lots with 7.5 metre frontages are
seen as the development of the future by the Sewell Commission. He noted that
there are wooden steps leading up to these townhouses and this should be
investigated.
4.
Christina Lazaridis, representing the applicant, stated that she was not aware of
any letter of comment sent to the Planning Department by Mr. and Mrs. Machin.
She noted that her company offered to give some land to the Machin's in order for
them to square off their property. The subject lands are not developable without
other owners agreeing to develop. She also noted that there are single detached
dwellings in the area.
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(IV) ADJOURNMENT
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The meeting adjourned at the hour of 8:25 p.rn.
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