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Minutes I Meeting Summary
Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee
November 25,2008
7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees:
Jim Simpson, Chair
Shawna Foxton, Vice-Chair
Theresa Abernethy, Member
Shirley Curran, Member
Richard Fleming, Member
Gordon Zimmerman, Member
Linda Roberts, (Recording Secretary)
Absent:
Councillor Johnson
Also Present:
N. Carroll, Director, Planning & Development
1. Moore, Chief Building Official
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1.0 Welcome
Jim Simpson, Chair, welcomed everyone to the meeting and
requested a change in order of the agenda for the purpose of
hearing two items of other business first. All in agreement.
1) Jim provided information to the Committee with respect to
2935 Brock Road. Although any comments at this time
would be premature, he noted this information was for
discussion purposes only, in order to keep the Committee
informed and also to provide support to City staff in this
regard. Gordon Zimmerman provided a brief history of the
property for the Committee's information with respect to
the location of the property. It was noted this is a heritage
designated property, and they will be submitting an
application for structural repairs to the roof. Gordon also
suggested John Sabean as a good resource person, as he
is very familiar with the history of this property.
2) Shawna Foxton informed the Committee she would not be
renewing her membership this year as she will be moving
out of town. Jim thanked Shawna on behalf of the
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Committee for all her efforts on Heritage Pickering.
will certainly be missed.
Approval of Minutes
Moved by Gordon Zimmerman
Seconded by Richard Fleming
She
That the minutes of October 28,2008 be adopted.
CARRIED
3.0 Delegations
3.1 Ellen Kowalchuk, M.A., Cultural Heritaqe Specialist
Jim introduced Ellen Kowalchuk from the Ontario Realty
Corporation. Introductions were made around the table.
Ellen provided the Committee with a brief background history
of her position with the Ontario Realty Corporation in the
cultural heritage field. She noted the following points:
. Helps individuals through the EA process, and sales
process
. Outlined the evaluation process
. Provided an explanation of how they designate
"provincially significant" properties and the difference
between how the City looks at it as opposed to the
Province
. Provincially significant properties have a conservation
process
. Noted that every undertaking is subject to the EA
process, and provided an outline of the process and
how they are placed in categories
. Sorts through potential properties, then contacts the
municipality
. ORC looks at property by property as opposed to
building by building
. Consultant has been hired to compile information
. Consulting firm is: Contentworks based in Ottawa
. Noted her intent to compile everything and bring forward
a plan, make recommendations
A brief question and answer period ensued. The Committee's
interaction with ORC was discussed, who to contact, and what
information the Committee could share with Ellen.
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Jim suggested two channels of communication;
. formal (through Planning, Clerk's Departments) and;
. informal (having Ellen attend meetings for sharing of
information)
Gordon pointed out again that we must have Council direction
in order for the property to be placed on the registry.
Discussion ensued on the issue of listing properties, they can
be listed but not designated. Provincial designations and the
issues surrounding this were discussed. It was noted that the
Province is self regulating and that the wording in the Act can
be confusing.
Neil Carroll, Director of Planning discussed the Provincially
owned properties within the Seaton lands. He noted that
ownership decisions were still under discussion at various
levels and informed the Committee there had been no
decisions made at this time. He noted there is a public map for
viewing that shows all the transferred lands. Agricultural
preserves and how this differs from the Heritage system were
also discussed. Neil also noted that this is part of the Central
Pickering Development Plan. Most of this area is private
ownership.
Jim questioned the ORC's responsibility for maintaining the
houses owned by the Province. Ellen stated that while the
ORC does not want the position of being landlords, steps are
being taken to preserve properties during the analysis period.
Jim expressed the Committee's concerns with this issue,
particularly within the Seaton area. He also noted the
Committee's intent to work together, and through cooperation
we can achieve more.
Gordon Zimmerman reported that the follow up phone survey
has been achieving more results with respect to the letters that
went out in October to property owners for purposes of listing
on the reg istry.
Jim again noted the intent of listing properties was to
eventually have them designated, and also, that this provides a
level of protection with the owners having to provide
notification of demolitions. The issue of demolition was further
pursued by discussion surrounding the sustainability issues, to
look at reuse, renew rather than destroy.
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Ellen explained the definition of enviornment~1 assessments,
and noted that they can vary with each Ministry involved.
Ellen provided the Committee with copies of the handbook on
the heritage management process and noted she would email
the PDF version.
Neil Carroll suggested meeting with Ellen as well and indicated
he would contact her.
It was questioned whether all the Provincially owned properties
could be extracted from the listings and provided to Ellen. Linda to action
Neil offered the assistance of the Planning department if
required.
Jim thanked Ellen for attending our meeting, and she noted
she could return once the study was complete. She noted she
would inform us of her availability.
4.0 New and Unfinished Business
4.1 Walk of Fame
Richard Fleming presented the committee with a proposal for a
Pickering Walk of Fame. Copies were provided to the
Committee. Richard outlined the format and talked briefly
about the preliminary list of potential inductees he had
compiled.
Moved by Shirley Curran
Seconded by Shawna Foxton
That the Committee agree to continue the project development
of a Walk of Fame.
Carried
5.0 Correspondence
5.1 Email from Director, Planning & Development
Jim noted the correspondence received from Neil Carroll,
Director of Planning with respect to the Whitevale Heritage
District and received this correspondence for information.
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6.0 Other Business
6.1 Snap Pickerinq
Jim has been in touch with this newspaper and they have
responded that they are interested in doing a 1/8 page
shot of our display. They would like to have a picture done
for the January, 2009 edition.
Jim asked if the Clerk's Division could arrange for the LindalDebi to action
display to be set up again in the lobby sometime between
now and December 15th. Jim has the contact information
and will arrange a date and time for the photo shoot. It
was decided Jim, Shawna and Gordon Willson would be in
the picture. It was also noted Snap would like to become
further involved with Heritage Pickering.
6.2 Brochure
The final version of the brochure should be ready to go to
print early in December.
6.3 Christmas Dinner
Three suggestions were offered for the Christmas Dinner Linda to make
on December 9th; at 7:00 pm, in order of preference: reservations
Burbs
Masseys
Fox & Fiddle
7.0 Next meetinq
January 27, 2009
8.0 Adiournment
Moved by Richard Fleming
Seconded by Theresa Abernethy
That the meeting be adjourned.
CARRIED
The meetinq adjourned at 8:50 pm.
Copy: City Clerk
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