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Minutes
Waterfront Coordinating Committee
September 19, 2013 7:00 pm Main Committee Room
Attendees: J. Berry K. Corcoran
J. Dike
K. Falconer
M. Robbins
P. Short-Gallé J. Veronneau
S. Wiley
D. Shields, City Clerk
A. Mostert, Coordinator, Landscape & Parks Development
Gord MacPherson, TRCA L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
Absent: Councillor Dickerson
Councillor O’Connell
Also Present: C. Beattie
A. McKinnon
B. Skitch
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1.0 Welcome & Introductions
D. Shields welcomed members and guests in attendance to
the meeting.
2.0 Agenda & Minutes
Moved by J. Dike
Seconded by J. Berry
J. Dike noted the June 20th minutes did not reflect information on reporting of the pilot program and requested that this be
included.
That the Minutes of the June 20, 2013 meeting of the Waterfront Coordinating Committee be approved, as amended.
Carried
3.0 Delegations
Gord MacPherson appeared before the Committee on behalf of
TRCA, and through the aid of a power point presentation, he
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outlined the development of a recreational fisheries plan. He
outlined the development plans, noting a public meeting will be
held here at the City of Pickering on the evening of October
24th in the Council Chambers. Through his presentation, Mr. MacPherson outlined the following;
Mission
• West shore of Lake Ontario is the most heavily studied area
• Identify strengths and weaknesses
• Recommend strategies for improving public access as well as enhancing and maintaining
• To promote fishing
Objectives
• Obtain local support as well as Provincial and Federal
• Identify state and health of fish communities
• Identify areas where recreation fishing can be promoted
• Identify areas to improve – work with tourism industry,
recreational stakeholders as well as media in promoting
public fishing opportunities
• Promote in a variety of ethnic communities
Mr. MacPherson outlined the timelines, noting they had begun
holding meetings in February and March, and hope to finalize
by April, 2014. He noted they are working on a draft fish management plan with other areas as well as Pickering, which
will be directed at shoreline improvements, be an easy to read
document, help to improve on access and hopefully lead to
government funding. He also noted everything in the plan is
in accordance with the Waterfront Master Plan.
Discussion ensued with members commenting as follows:
J. Veronneau noted concerns with respect to the boat launch
and location of fishing nodes near the Pickering Rouge Canoe Club which could be a potential conflict during regattas. He
also noted concerns with the use of cattails that are proposed
as part of the fish habitat creation on the south shore, noting
that this could be a safety issue if a canoe tips and the
occupants need to be able to reach the shoreline safely.
K. Corcoran commented that she thought natural vegetation
was the goal.
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J. Dike requested clarification on the wetland restoration,
where the work is happening.
G. MacPherson indicated the areas on the map and also explained how they are incorporating vegetation.
J. Veronneau also questioned who has the final word at TRCA.
Gord responded that all approvals come from the Chair of the
Board.
C. Beattie appeared before the Committee to express her
concerns with a plan to encourage fishing. She questioned
why promote this when hunting is not promoted. She noted it
should not be TRCA’s concerns to help raise money for commercial stores. She noted fishing is not that popular any
more, as most fish are not edible, it’s done mostly for sport.
She noted concerns as follows;
• tangles of fishing line under the pedestrian bridge
• swallows get trapped and die
• hooks in wildlife, on the beach
• the amount of garbage left behind by the fishermen
• fighting that occurs over the best fishing spots
• lack of control A. McKinnon appeared before the Committee and questioned
how the open house would be advertised. He also expressed
concerns over this plan, noting he has witnessed altercations
over fishing spots. He also noted concern with a lack of enforcement and the amount of trash left behind. He noted the plan is wrong if it does not have these issues worked into it.
K. Falconer noted that while he respects the concerns noted,
he indicated that the City of Pickering does put up signage regarding trash. He also asked the delegate, Mr. MacPherson, to respond to the question regarding fish being edible as well
as whether the proper species of fish are being put back into
the Bay.
G. MacPherson explained how they are improving fish habitat,
noting a lot of time has been spent to carefully understand how
to do the proper thing. He noted this is a multi-faceted plan
which they are coordinating with other municipalities. He also
explained how when you improve access, it can become self-policing. He noted signage is an important factor. He also
noted that funding from the Federal government, whether
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regulatory or financial, would greatly assist.
S. Wiley stated he was in favour of promoting improved access
to the shoreline, but it must be done in a logical manner to avoid conflict. Improving the health of the shoreline is critical.
He also noted education is key with a need to promote proper
ethics, stating that the plan should improve on this. He noted
the great results seen in Toronto as a result of the work by
TRCA.
Gord noted that currently there are no rules or restrictions in
place on fishing. He explained what is being done in other
areas and how it has become self-policing, noting how
education is being done.
C. Beattie questioned who pays for enforcement as well as
confusion as to improving access while also restricting it with
respect to the boat launch.
Gord explained the design, which is all within the scope of the
plan as well as enforcement.
K. Falconer noted he concurs with S. Wiley’s comments and
also questioned the washroom facilities.
Moved by K. Falconer
Seconded by J. Veronneau
That City of Pickering Facilities Staff be consulted prior to construction of the washroom facilities on the west spit to
better understand issues such as accessibility and what would
best serve the west spit.
Carried
J. Dike questioned the quality of fish which is edible. G.
MacPherson explained the testing of the fish, stating it is no
different from fish caught in cottage country. He noted very
stringent restrictions are carried out here. He noted one area of concern being the Niagara River, which contains 80% of the
toxins.
4.0 Business Arising from Minutes
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4.1) Wetland Restoration at North End of Frenchman’s Bay
D. Shields noted a letter has been drafted as a starting point
for the motion made at the June 20th meeting, to request TRCA look into wetland restoration at the north end of Frenchman’s
Bay. D. Shields noted that Council would like to see a copy of
the letter prior to forwarding this onto TRCA.
Copies were passed around to members with their input being requested. It was suggested that the draft letter be forwarded
electronically to the members for their input. Responses from
the Committee would then be incorporated into the letter, and
sent out once more before being finalized.
Comments were noted as follows:
J. Dike stated that he felt the letter does not emphasize the
serious concerns of the Committee for the quality of the
wetlands and that it requires more background as to the nature
of our concerns.
J. Veronneau noted concerns with the north side.
P. Short-Galle questioned whether the City has any control
over the work done by the Harbour Co.
J. Dike suggested the Committee’s concerns be incorporated
into the draft letter before being forwarded onto the members
again.
It was noted that the letter would be forwarded directly to the
Board for TRCA once approved.
5.0 New Business
5.1) Frenchman’s Bay Harbour Entrance
A. Mostert provided an overview of the progress to date on the
Frenchman’s Bay Harbour entrance. Through the aid of a
power point presentation, he provided photos of the work to date, noting that boat traffic had continued. A. Mostert noted a delay in work as a result of the Ministry of Labour addressing
the procedures related to the lifting of the armourstone.
Gord provided a presentation outlining the dredging process at the harbor entrance. He noted the rocks and timber cribs will be repurposed and also indicated where the proposed storage
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for dredging would be located. He stated they are pleased
with the progress to date and also indicated that community
concerns had been addressed.
B. Skitch – questioned if historical investigations had been
done on the original location of the lighthouse as he thought
that it was located farther into the lake. Archaeological
investigations have not indicted that this was the case.
J. Veronneau questioned the timing of the project and whether
it was on budget.
G. MacPherson explained how work had continued during the
delays, noting no significant impact on the budget and stated they still plan to finish by next year. He also explained the
beneficial use of the dredging material and noted TRCA is
working with the Harbour Co. and assisting them with
placement of the dredging materials.
5.2) Linton Farmhouse
A. Mostert informed the Committee the drawings had been
submitted in order to obtain the required permit. This has
gone out to tender, and work will proceed once the permit has been issued. Mr. Mostert also noted that the building will be
insulated which will provide the option of utilizing the
washrooms during the winter months, as requested by
Councillor Dickerson.
K. Falconer requested staff investigate whether the interior of
the house would be renovated and who would be responsible
for the costs. He noted this had been brought up at a previous
meeting. It was noted that there currently is no use for the
building, therefore interior renovations were not being pursued at this time.
5.3) Milfoil Weeds
J. Dike provided an update on the Eurasian Water-Milfoil weed. He noted that when viewing the bottom of the Bay with an
underwater camera in early Spring, very little invasion of the
weed had been noted. However, in early July, with 5 very
warm days in a row, they found an area with heavy growth. At
that point, they arranged for 20,000 weevils to put in this test site and would look again next week. He stated Allies of
A. Mostert to action
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Frenchman’s Bay Association will continue to hold meetings
and gather information, indicating they had met with and
received a quote from Lake Savers of $5,800 to put an aeration
system test site near the Canoe Club – on Pickering Harbour Company lands.
5.4) Doors Open
A. Mostert provided an update on the Doors Open – Frenchman’s Bay Walking Tour program which will be held on
October 5th from 10:00 am to 4:00 pm at Progress
Frenchman’s Bay East Park. He noted the following
participants;
• Becky George – Pickering Public Library
• TRCA – display showing natural features on the Bay &
electro-fishing demonstration – 11:30am to 12:30pm.
• Canoe Club demonstration - 1:00pm to 2:30pm.
• Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club demonstration at 2:30
• PARA – unconfirmed at this point
A. Mostert encouraged members to come out, noting this is a
free event.
Discussion ensued with respect to parking concerns at the
bottom of Liverpool Road. J. Dike questioned signage for
parking to direct residents on available parking areas.
It was the consensus of the Committee to have staff look into further information in this regard and report back at the next
meeting.
D. Shields to action
6.0 Other Business
6.1) D. Shields noted that accessibility training was mandatory
for all members of Advisory Boards and Committees. She
stated that it had been arranged to have this occur at the next
meeting. She also requested that you advise her of your attendance as this is a mandatory training session, other arrangements will be made if members cannot attend the
session at the next meeting.
6.2) D. Shields provided an update on the Pilot Program for Chairs and Vice-Chairs of Advisory Committees. She stated
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that she would be recommending to Council that these
positions be returned for the balance of this term, and that this
take place at the next scheduled meeting. She will be bringing
forward a report to Council in 2014 that will recommend a facilitator beginning with the new term of Council.
K. Falconer requested clarification on the Chair and Vice-Chair
terms, and whether this break in service was being considered.
P. Short-Galle questioned whether the report would be
available prior to going to Council.
D. Shields provided details, noting that anyone who had served
a 2 year term would need to be re-elected unanimously. She also noted the report would be going forward to the Executive
Committee prior to Council, giving the public the opportunity to
view and provide comments.
6.3) K. Falconer advised members that the Great Canadian Shoreline Clean up would be taking place this Saturday,
September 21st. They would be working in conjunction with
PESCA and the Nautical Village.
7.0 Adjournment/Next Meeting
Next Meeting: November 21, 2013
Meeting Adjourned: 9:20 pm
Copy: City Clerk