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Waterfront Coordinating Committee
September 15, 2011
PICKEARINkG 7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees: Jim Dike, Chair
Jim Berry
Kathleen Corcoran
Sean Wiley
Keith Falconer
Maureen Robbins
Jean Veronneau
Arnold Mostert, Coordinator, Landscape & Parks Development
Nancy Gaffney, TRCA
L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
Absent: Councillor O'Connell
Councillor Dickerson
Patricia Short-Galle
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1.0 Welcome & Introductions
J. Dike welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2.0 Agenda/Minutes
Moved by K. Falconer
Seconded by S. Wiley
That the minutes of the August 18, 2011 meeting of the
Waterfront Coordinating Committee be approved.
Carried
3.0 Correspondence
None received
4.0 New Business
4.1) Eastern Trail with York Region
A. Mostert provided an update with respect to the Eastern Trail.
He informed the Committee that he had attended a site visit
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and discussion took place with regards to decommissioning
Frisco Road. He noted that the Town of Ajax had no objection
to the proposed plan and explained that the majority of Frisco
Road is under Town of Ajax ownership. He explained the
timing involved with receiving Council approval by both the
Town of Ajax and City of Pickering, as well as resulting by-laws
being passed. He explained the process for public notification,
noting it could be November before going forward to Council.
Discussion ensued with respect to the rest of the Trail. N.
Gaffney, TRCA informed the Committee that the TRCA is
constructing the rest areas with a timeline of early Spring and
will be providing a quote to York Region regarding the
construction of the trail.
A. Mostert provided an update on the Linton House, noting
enhancements should be complete by July, 2012. He noted the
plans should not vary from those the Committee has already
viewed, but will forward any' new plans to the members when
received.
4.2) Waterfront Master Plan
A. Mostert noted one issue with moving forward is to resolve
the Scudellari property first. He had received a request from
the Rotary Club to do a presentation and indicated they may be
willing to assist financially. He suggested possibly the second
week of October to present the plan to the Rotary Club, with a
public meeting to follow.
4.3) Scudellari Property
A. Mostert informed the Committee he had submitted a request
to Snyder Construction to review the Feasibility Study and
associated cost estimate. Frank Snyder had reviewed the
original report and indicated that the quote was in line.
Discussion ensued with respect to the feasibility of spending
money on this structure. Additional costs will be required with
respect to water supply. It was also noted that the pipe size
and the number of hydrants used for the estimated cost is a
Regional requirement. J. Dike questioned whether the building
would be in the way when the west side of the harbor entrance
is being constructed.
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Further discussion took place with respect to the following;
• look at what elements of pricing need to be done
• location is an issue - may not be in the best location -
too far away from beach from the entrance to the beach
area
• Canoe Club - does it meet their needs
• no other options have been presented for use of the
property
• better to spend the money on a new sustainable
structure
• parking would still be an issue
• house needs to go - not worth spending money on given
it's condition
A detailed discussion ensued with respect to costs,
construction, washrooms, ownership of building and storage
facilities
Moved by J. Berry
Seconded by J. Veronneau
1) . That based on the information presented to the Committee,
it be recommended that staff prepare a memo requesting
Council consider the Scudellari residence be demolished for the
following reasons;
a) cost to bring municipal water to property
b) current location for access
c) additional harbor costs if docking is required as part of its
future use
d) public washroom facilities should be more central to the park
e) high renovation costs
f) lack of interest from outside agencies for use of the facility
g) vandalism could be an issue due to the remote location of
the structure; and
2) that the Committee supports the construction of a structure A. Mostert to action
for the Pickering Rouge Canoe Club complete with public
washrooms in a more central location, as proposed in the
Frenchman's Bay Waterfront Master Plan.
Carried
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4.4) Pickering Rouge Canoe Club
N. Gaffney noted that TRCA are currently working out details to
find a reasonable solution, noting the importance to site it
appropriately. All information to date has been well received
and she noted the next step would be to obtain public input.
The main issue currently is in the details.
Discussion took place with respect to having a dock for the
pontoon board incorporated into the Plan for the Pickering
Rouge Canoe Club facility.
TRCA has supported this in principle and is now moving
forward with the next steps. N. Gaffney noted this needs to be
incorporated into the plan and indicated it would be conceivable
to expect that the plan will be approved at a conceptual level by
the end of the year.
4.5) Great Canadian Trail Ride
A. Mostert provided an update on the Great Canadian Trail
Ride which had taken place recently over an eight day period
with 300 riders participating. The riders enjoyed a rest stop at
the West Shore Community Centre.
4.6) Progress Frenchman's Bay East Park Safety Equipment
A. Mostert informed .the Committee he had spoken with the
Director, Community Services with respect to the issue of safety
equipment being installed at Progress Frenchman's Bay East
Park.
Discussion ensued with respect to the installation of a ladder, or
having safety equipment available to provide. It was noted that
the area is extremely weedy which would deter people from
swimming in the area. Due to this, the ladder may be the best
method of safety equipment for rescue purposes in the event
there is no one else around.
A. Mostert to do a site visit. A. Mostert to action
4.7) Liverpool Road Beach area parking
A. Mostert informed the Committee that he had spoken with
event staff at the City of Pickering with respect to the parking
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issues at Liverpool Road Beach.
General discussion ensued with respect to having signage
placed in the area to inform residents where additional parking
is located. Some suggestions were as follows;
place signage to indicate where additional parking is
available under the existing "No Parking" sign
• have staff direct people to alternate locations
• include a map to indicate the alternate locations
• list the sites for additional parking
It was indicated that residents in the area of Progress
Frenchman's Bay East-Park may object to additional parking in
the area.
4.8) Access to Beach Washrooms
A. Mostert indicated that he had attended the site and informed
the Committee that the reason for the pylons was not to provide
accessibility to the washrooms, but simply to help dry out the
floor. He noted that the washrooms currently meet with the
Ontario Building Code requirements as confirmed with the Chief
Building Official.
Moved by K. Falconer
Seconded by J. Veronneau
That the Committee recommend City staff pursue the
installation of a power door opener to make the Beachfront
Park washrooms accessible. A. Mostert to action
Carried
Further discussion ensued with respect to the months of
operation at this location.
5.0 Other Business
5.1) Tree Planting
N. Gaffney informed the Committee that a tree could be planted
prior to the end of the year. The location would be the decision
of the Committee and TRCA would work with the City of
Pickering in determining the appropriate type of tree in
conformity with the landscape plan.
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J. Berry suggested Progress Frenchman's Bay East Park, and it
was the consensus of the Committee to choose this location.
The cutter head from the former suction dredge Primrose, is on J/ Berry/
display within Frenchman's Bay East Park without a plaque. J. A. Mostert to
Berry to provide A. Mostert with possible wording for a plaque. Action
5.2) Si na e
K. Falconer noted that a number of signs were illegible along
the trail. N. Gaffney noted she had. just taken pictures and had
relayed this information to staff to have them replaced.
5.3) Weekly Safety Bulletins
J. Dike questioned the possibility of having weekly safety
bulletins posted throughout the City of Pickering. A. Mostert
indicated that the City of Pickering is currently working on
updating their website and could possibly have a link on the
website to PARU to provide residents with safety bulletins A. Mostert to action
respecting water safety.
5.4) Geotech Bags
J. Dike informed the Committee that some areas are using
geotech bags to aid in the dredging of materials. The water
comes out, material stays in the bags, which could be used for
beach restoration. He will provide further information as well as A. Mostert to action
pricing to A. Mostert to look into.
5.5) Butterfly Release
K. Falconer stated through Environmental Stewardship
Pickering, 200 Monarch butterflies were released at Alex
Robertson Park on September 10th in celebration of the City of
Pickering's 200th birthday.
5.6) Rotary Frenchman's Bay West Park Cleanup
J. Berry welcomed all members to participate in a shoreline
cleanup this Saturday (September 17th) at Rotary Frenchman's
Bay West Park from 10:00 am to 12:00 pm.
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6.0 Adjournment/Next Meeting
Moved by K. Corcoran
Next Meeting: To be determined
Meeting Adjourned: 8:30 pm
Copy: City Clerk
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