HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 18, 2011
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Waterfront Coordinating Committee
i August 18, 2011
eICKERING 7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees: Councillor Dickerson
Jim Dike, Chair
Jim Berry
Sean Wiley
Keith Falconer
Maureen Robbins
Jean Veronneau
Arnold Mostert, Coordinator, Landscape & Parks Development
Nancy Gaffney, TRCA
Absent: Councillor O'Connell
Patricia Short-Galle
Kathleen Corcoran
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1.0 Welcome & Introductions
J. Dike welcomed everyone to the meeting and asked
Belinda Lyn, Pass Commodore of the Pickering Rouge
Canoe Club to introduce herself.
2.0 Agenda/Minutes
Agenda Approval:
Moved by Jim Dike
Seconded by Councillor Dickerson
Carried
Minutes Approval:
Moved by Keith Falconer
Seconded by Jim Berry
That the minutes of the May 19, 2011 meeting of the Waterfront
Coordinating Committee be approved.
Carried
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3.0 Correspondence
None to report
4.0 New Business
1) Scudellari Residence
A. Mostert advised that contact was made with OPG, PARU,
and UOIT. No one was interested in partnering in the cost to
upgrade the building to bring it up to the current standards for
public occupancy and using the building.
A. Mostert inquired with a local contractor regarding the cost to
bring municipal water service to the building. The estimated
cost for over 1 km of 150mm diameter water main including fire
hydrants at 150m spacing as required by the Region of Durham
is approximately $450,000. Councillor Dickerson questioned
the need for 150mm pipe and fire hydrants in this location. A.
Mostert advised that he understands that this is a Region of
Durham standard.
Councillor Dickerson questioned the cost estimates for the
upgrades required to the Scudellari Residence that were
included the Feasibility Study. A. Mostert advised that the
estimates included not only Envelope and Infrastructure
upgrades to bring the building in compliance for public
occupancy and accessibility but also included costs to modify
the building for new programming and a 20% contingency. It
was generally agreed that the estimated costs for the upgrades
and water service is too much to spend on the building.
J. Berry noted that the current location of the building, should it
be repurposed for public use is not really in the best location
and is not in keeping with the current park master plan. It
would be better to spend the money on a new facility that is
located mid way on the spit, where it will better serve the needs
of the public.
After some discussion, it was requested that staff obtain some
check pricing from contractors to ensure that the cost estimate A. Mostert to
is in line. A. Mostert to check with E. Buntsma and T. Prevedel action
to see what course of action should be taken.
2) Trail Enhancement for the East Trail
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A. Mostert advised that he has had a meeting with the Region
of York that their consultants to review the progress of the
working drawings and has another meeting scheduled for next
week. The proposed work included in the drawings is in
keeping with what was reviewed and agreed to by the
committee previously. The Linton House will also be restored
externally and public washrooms constructed as an addition on
the west end of the building. The restoration of the interior of
the house could be completed by the City once there is a user
group. Councillor Dickerson recalled previous discussions; that
the entire building was to have been restored for use by the trail
users.
The Region of York intends to start the construction in the fall
and be complete by late spring with the exception of the work at
the lookout area. This may be completed at a later date as the
proposed construction of the new outfall pipe may encroach on
this area. The closure of the southern portion of Frisco Road
needs to be approved by both the City of Pickering and Town of
Ajax Councils as it is a boundary road. A meeting is being
scheduled for early September to meet with Ajax staff to
discuss this matter. Reconstruction of the road and trail cannot
be started until the closure has been approved.
3) Frenchman's Bay Waterfront Master Plan
A. Mostert advised that it was decided that the public meeting
for the Park Master Plan will be delayed from its proposed
September time to sort out the issues surrounding the
Scudellari Residence and a new facility location and design for
the Pickering Rouge Canoe Club. The hope is that the meeting
can be scheduled for October.
The City is currently preparing the 5 year budget forecast and
funds will be requested for the implementation of the first phase
of the Master Plan, starting with the lay-by parking.
Councillor Dickerson requested confirmation, that the TRCA
would consider public amenities on the proposed Pickering
Rouge Canoe Club facility that may make the Scudellari facility
redundant.
Discussion ensued, particularly regarding the location and
design of the boat launch area. The Pickering Rouge Canoe
Club is concerned with the launching of larger power boats and
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Seadoos that can make canoeing in the Bay unsafe.
4) Harbour Entrance Update
Copies of the Frenchman's Bay Harbour Entrance Project Brief
were circulated to the committee members. A. Mostert advised
that some information regarding the property agreement with
the Pickering Harbour Company was removed from the
document as this information is confidential.
N. Gaffney advised that the City and TRCA are in the process
of approaching the various levels of government to request for
funding for the reconstruction of the Harbour Entrance.
It was mentioned that other municipalities have Harbour Days,
including Cobourg and Whitby and that they have been a huge
financial success. Maybe Pickering could have an annual
Frenchman's Bay Harbour Day once the work has been
completed.
5) Pickering Rouge Canoe Club Facility
A. Mostert advised that the Pickering Rouge Canoe Club met
with City and TRCA staff and have come up with a design that
the Club finds acceptable. The work would involve some filling
along the shoreline and restoration of the spit to either side of
the facility. As the design is still under review by TRCA
planning staff it was not made available for circulation. The
facility would include space for public washrooms.
The Canoe Club's main concern with the location is the
proximity to the proposed boat launch. Discussion ensued
regarding other locations for a boat launch facility. It was noted
that the boat launch will be reviewed by the public as part of the
Frenchman's Bay Waterfront Master Plan process.
6) Millennium Square - Parking
The Committee had discussions surrounding the need for
additional parking at the end of Liverpool Road. Options
discussed included a parking garage deck and agreements with
the Pickering Harbour Company for use of their lands next to
the existing parking lot. It was suggested that during waterfront
events, that additional signage could be placed, advising the
public of other parking options such as Kinsmen Park, Alex
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Roberston Park and Progress Frenchman's Bay East Park that
are in reasonable walking distance to the waterfront. This
information could also be put on the Waterfront Trail mapping
and included in the advertisements for the events. A. Mostert
to request that the City events staff consider providing A. Mostert. to
additional information regarding the parking as part of the event Action
advertisement.
7) Progress Frenchman's Bay East Park
J. Berry discussed his concerns with the safety along the shore
wall in Progress Frenchman's Bay East Park. There is currently
no means of getting someone out of the water if they went over
the railing. It was suggested that either a ladder or safety
equipment get installed.
Moved by J. Berry
Seconded by J. Veronneau
The committee recommends that the City consider the
installation of appropriate safety equipment at Progress
Frenchman's Bay East Park.
Carried
5.0 Other Business
N. Gaffney advised the committee that the TRCA still has a tree
that needs to be planted with a marker for the Committee's
"Honour Role". The committee is to advise where they would
like the tree to be planted. The TRCA has restrictions to the
locations that memorial trees can be planted on their properties,
particularly on the waterfront. N. Gaffney to provide the criteria N. Gaffney to Action
for the tree planting.
K. Falconer advised that as part of his role on the Accessibility
Committee, he had requested that staff look at making the
washrooms at Millennium Square more accessible. Currently
there are no power door openers on the washroom doors. Staff
have been propping the doors open with pylons to help the A. Mostert to
situation, however, this is not the most desirable solution. A. Action
Mostert to check with staff on the status of this request.
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6.0 Adjournment/Next Meeting
Moved by K. Falconer
Seconded by M. Robbins
That the meeting adjourn.
The next meeting will be held on September 15, 2011.
Meeting Adjourned: 9:05 pm
Copy: City Clerk
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