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STATUTORY PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING MINUTES
,-,. A Statutory Public Information Meeting pursuant to Section 34 of the Planning
Act was held by the Pickering Town Council on Wednesday, June 17, 1992 at 7:30
p.m.
PRESENT:
Acting Mayor Maurice Brenner
COUNCILLORS:
E. Higdon
E. Pi stritto
K. Van Kempen
ABSENT:
Mayor Arthurs (ill)
Councillor Johnson (municipal business)
~ Councillor Wellman (holidays)
ALSO PRESENT:
B. Taylor
N. Carroll
1. Me 1 ymuk
C. Rose
L. Taylor
J. Cole
B. Avery
- Town Clerk
- Director of Planning
- Deputy Director of Planning
- Manager, Policy Division
- Manager, Current Operations Division
- Planner
- Planner
(I) DRAFT PLAN OF SUBDIVISION 18T-91019
REZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION A 2/92
SUBMITTED BY BRAMAlEA LIMITED
PART OF LOT 35, CONCESSION 1
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An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report
13/92, was given by J. Cole, Planner.
2. John Whi tehead, representi ng Bramal ea Limi ted, stated that thi s pl an
attempts to address all the environmental and planning issues that
have been raised in the past. He gave a brief history of the
planning of the subject lands and noted that part of the plan was
approved by Counci 1 and part was refused and subsequentl y, Brama 1 ea
appealed the refusal to the Ontario Municipal Board. Due to changing
concerns, Bramalea has decided to totally revise the plan and are
committed to working through the public process.
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Mr. McCauley, representing Bramalea Limited, stated that Bramalea
undertook a comprehensive review of the entire property because of
concerns for the environment and to com~y with the low cost housing
provisions. The Official Plan provides for low density development
and noted that on the east side of Street A, they have houses of 60
foot frontages with deeper lots to preserve trees and provide a
transition from the existing houses on Pinegrove Avenue. There are
only two access points to this draft plan whereas the previous plans
provided for four accesses. Their traffic consultant has indicated
that this is feasible and will protect the environment.
Approximately 30% of the subject lands will be open space and he
noted that the open space area and storm water management area at the
south end of the plan will address the noise attenuation required for
the ra i 1 way. The mi x of lots from 60 foot frontages on Street A to
52 foot semi-detached lots complies with Provincial policies on
affordable housing.
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An unidentified man expressed concern about increased traffic on
Pinegrove Avenue as a result of this development.
5. An uni denti fi ed man expressed concern about addi ti ona 1 traffi c bei ng
created by this development on Highway #2 and Highway #401.
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6. Dieter Daues, 1842 Pinegrove Avenue, stated that the existing forest
on the subject lands should be preserved. Bramalea Limited is the
largest landowner in Pickering and is able to built elsewhere.
7. Konrad Wanner, 1812 Pinegrove Avenue, stated that the proposed
development is too dense. He noted that there were 170 units
originally planned for the subject lands in the 1970s and now there
are 340 units planned. This development will cause much traffic on
Pi negrove Avenue and therefore the resi dents shoul d be exempt from
any upgrading needed to Pinegrove Avenue.
Don Roden, 1816 Pinegrove Avenue, stated that the existing
residential area west of Altona Road is an island around high density
development. He felt the Town should look at the overall area and
determine if this plan will fit in. This development will be a
detriment to the exi sti ng properti es and the Town will regret the
appearance in the long run. Issues such as density, tra ffi c and 1 ack
of schools make this a poor proposal.
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9. Jill Smith, 1822 Pinegrove Avenue, stated that in the past, Bramalea
Limited has been a good builder but she was concerned that the large
lots on Street A will not be compatible with smaller houses to the
west.
10. Crystal Garrick, 1851 Pinegrove Avenue, stated that the increased
traffic on Pinegrove Avenue must be addressed and noted that there is
not sufficient schools in the area for this development.
11. Mr. McCauley, representing Brama1ea Limited, stated that Pinegrove
Avenue would be improved to an urban road and financed by development
charges. The Town will work with the Region to bring services to
Pinegrove Avenue to service the existing residents. He acknowledged
that traffic in the area is poor and will be studied further. The
public school board has no objection to this development and although
the separate school board has lodged an objection, he noted that they
will be getting a school site on Rosebank Road.
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(II) REZONING APPLICATION A 10/90(R)
PEMIAN AND STANKOVSKI
PART OF LOTS 8-10, PLAN 489
NORTHEAST CORNER OF WALNUT LANE AND KINGSTON ROAD
1. An explanation of the application, as outlined in Information Report
12/92, was given by Brendan Avery, Planner.
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Steven Pilen, representing the applicant, stated that he conducted a
shadow study and as a resul t, he has stepped down the apartment at
the north end of the subj ect 1 ands to reduce shadows. The townhouse
development at the northeast corner of Dixi e Road and Ki ngston Road
will have a greater height impact than his apartment proposal. The
commercial floor space has been reduced from 25,000 square feet to
1 ess than 15,000 square feet and he has carri ed out a market study
tha t shows a need for conven i ence s tore to serve the a rea. He is
also in the process of preparing a traffic study. With respect to
parki ng, one space per uni t shoul d be adequate and hi s cl i ent hopes
to market the apartment units to seniors.
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3. Kingsley Welton, 1751 Storrington Street, representing the Walnut
Land and Highway #2 Ratepayers Association, the South Glendale
Ratepayers Associ ati on and the Li verpoo1 Road West Ratepayers
Association, stated that this proposal has received the most reaction
of any development in the area. An apartment building behind the
existing houses is not appropriate and the proposed commercial space
is too large. The residents have tried to work with the developer of
this project but in the past two years, the developer has not
communicated with the area residents.
4. Bruce Singleton, 1184 Kingston Road, stated that his house will be
only about 40 feet from the proposed apartment. The properti es to
the north will be affected by this development and his house will be
shadowed by the apartment building. The proposed development will
not fit in aesthetically with the area. Although he agrees that
there is a need for assisted housing, it is not appropriate to put it
on such expensive property as the subject lands.
Wayne Lawrence, 1770 Storri ngton Street, stated that he moved to
Pi ckeri ng to get away from apartments and he knows that there will be
more than one car per unit. The proposed development has gotten
larger over the years and he questioned if it comp1 ies with the
Highway #2 Corridor Study. Traffic is already very heavy on Highway
#2 and he asked if a tra ffi c study had been undertaken. He asked
what types of offices and stores will be allowed in the commercial
component. He noted that there are 81 parki ng spaces on the subject
lands and asked if these include the residential component. There is
no area for chi1 dren to p1 ay in and he asked who will rep1 ace the
existing trees that are killed as a result of construction.
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6. Kathy Ireland, Walnut Lane, stated that she inquired with the Town as
to the use of this property and was told that it was zoned for single
detached dwellings. Traffic is poor on Walnut Lane at present and
this proposal will only add to the problem. She was concerned that
overflow parking will occur on Walnut Lane. The proposed buildings
are too close to the existing houses and will invade their privacy.
The two entrances off Walnut Lane to the proposed development is too
much and she noted that the rear of the commercial building will be
seen from Walnut Lane which is not aesthetically pleasing. She
stated that a townhouse development such as that at the intersection
of Dixie Road and Highway #2 would fit into the community.
Judy Boson, Wa1 nut Lane, stated that she moved from Toronto because
Glendale is a family oriented area and has quiet streets. Walnut
Lane is a narrow road and traffic is already a worry and this
proposal will only add to the problem. She felt that the Town should
undertake a traffic study of the area and should investigate
comparable developments. She asked if there is accommodation for
people living in the proposed apartment who have two cars. The
privacy of the existing residents will be affected by the four storey
apartment building. She inquired into the aesthetics of the proposed
development and stated that it will lower property standards. There
is no market for more commercial development and felt that the
townhouse development at Dixie Road and Highway #2 would be
appropri ate for thi s property. She asked if the exi sti ng trees wi 11
be preserved.
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Paul Noonan, 1769 Storrington Street, asked if the type of
development at Dixie Road and Highway #2 would fit on this property.
He inquired about this property and was told it was zoned to permit
single family houses only. The density is too high and traffic is a
concern. He felt that this proposal will not fit in with the
existing community and will create severe traffic problems at Walnut
Lane and Highway #2.
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Chuck Hay, 1801 Storri ngton Street, stated that there is already too
much traffi c in the area. There is already empty conmerci a 1 space
along Kingston Road and this project is not needed. The development
will not fit in with the existing community.
10. Steve Foden, 1736 Wollaston Court, stated that he received
i nformati on about a non-profit housi ng development on the subject
lands and indicated his concern about the safety and security of the
area. Non-profit housing attracts undesireable people who commit
crimes in the surrounding area. He was told this land was zoned for
single family houses and to approve this development now would not be
fair to the residents. He asked if a study has been done to show the
relationship between non-profit housing and crime.
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11 . Kathy Browni ng, Walnut Lane, stated that the proposals for the
subject lands keeps getting bigger over the years. There is already
insufficient parking and too much traffic on the area roads and there
should be not access from the proposed development onto Walnut Lane.
She noted that there is not enough space in the school s for the
children who will live in this development.
David Cook, 1583 Rawlings Drive, asked what will happen to the
community over time and if this proposal will be a model for lands to
the east. The proposed development will cause severe traffic
problems and is out of context with the existing community. He felt
that the market study could not show a need for more commercial
development. Most people drive to pick up their groceries outside of
the subdivision and there are not enough people in the Glendale area
to support this conmercial development. He stated that the Town
should support needy people where they already live.
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13. John Godwin, 1794 Storrington Street, asked what the Town has planned
for the 1 ands between Walnut Lane and Gl enda 1 e Road. He was told
this area would be developed as single family dwellings.
14. Luke Feetham, 1749 Walnut Lane, stated that he was told that the
subject lands would be developed as single family dwellings. He was
concerned about traffic and the safety of children. The existing
trees, which are to be used as a buffer, are located within the
existing properties and will not help him maintain his privacy. He
stated that there is no need for any further conmercial development.
Lee Morgan, Kingston Road, stated that the proposed development is in
a registered subdivision that is meant for residential development.
This proposal is piecemeal development and the Town needs ~ plan for
the overall area.
16. Larry Bryant, 1232 Canborough Crescent, stated that the south side of
Kingston Road has been poorly planned. The townhouse developments on
Kingston Road at Charlotte Circle and Dixie Road are like bookends
for development between them and apartments and a conmercial
_development would not be appropriate or compatible with the area. If
this development is approved, there will be more children attending
the schools and a school crossing will be required.
17. Peter Scavuzzo, 1106 Culross Avenue, stated that he moved to
Pickering because of the rural setting and an apartment is not
compatible with such a setting. He was not asked for his opinion on
this development. He stated that traffic is already bad in the area
and asked where people living in the proposed apartments will park
their cars.
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Bruce Caton, 1795 Walnut Lane, asked what type of measures the
developer will take for dust control and what type of pri vacy fence
will be erected. Traffic is already bad in the area and people have
to park on the road. He stated that he woul d 1 i ke to see a more
suitable development.
19. A resident of 1801 Walnut Lane stated that he was concerned about
traffic and the lack of space in the area schools.
20. Joseph Brown, 1113 Gl en Eden Court, stated that the proposed
apartment building is too dense and will create much traffic and a
traffic light will be required at the intersection of Walnut Lane and
Ki ngston Road.
21. Bob Archell, 1760 Storrington Street, stated that he moved into the
Gl enda 1 e subdi vi si on because of the beauty of the area but
development on the south side of Highway #2 has been poor and this
development is not appropriate. Traffic is so heavy in the area that
he does not use the intersection of Walnut Lane and Kingston Road and
stated that traffi c from the proposed development wi 11 worsen over
the years as the children grow up.
Brendan Avery, Pl anner, stated that he noted the concerns of the
residents and indicated that many of the concerns have already been
identified as issues. The lands on the north side of Kingston Road
have been designated as a special design precinct and will be studied
with resident input. He stated that this is a development
application that must be processed and it does conform to the
Official Plan.
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Steve Pilen, representing the applicant, stated that the Durham
Non-Profi t Housi ng Corporati on wi 11 target the proposed apartment
building for seniors. An overall design plan will be conducted for
the area and he will undertake a traffic study. With respect to
children, a playground will be provided on the subject lands and the
school board is only anti ci pati ng four students from the proposed
apartments. The rear of the commercial building will not face onto
Walnut Lane and sidewalks will be provided on the public roads. The
commerci a 1 bui 1 di ngs wi 11 contain nei ghbourhood conveni ence stores.
The zoning on the south side of Kingston Road is very restrictive but
he noted that many stores are operating in contravention of the
zoning by-law. The dust and dirt from construction will be
controlled and a privacy fence will be erected along the north and
east sides of the subject lands. He has toured various Durham
Non-Profit Housing and found them to be good developments and
indicated that the residents could go on a similar tour. He stated
that a townhouse development was once proposed but it would not be
economically viable.
(III) ADJOURNMENT OF STATUTORY PUBLIC MEETING
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The Meeting adjourned at 9:56 p.m.
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Mayor
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