HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 24, 2013 City o¢i Minutes
Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee
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PICKERIN 7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees: Councillor Rodrigues
T. Besso
S. Iyer
W. Jamadar
T. Reimer
D. Rundle
C. Sopher
J. Van Huss
D. Shields, City Clerk
C. Celebre, Senior Planner, Development Review & Heritage
L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
D. Marlowe, Accessibility Coordinator
Absent: E. Mason
M. Sawchuck
S. Sheehan
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1,0; Welcome
D. Shields welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2.0 Election- Chair and Vice-Chair
D. Shields presided over the Committee in order to conduct
elections for the positions of Chair and Vice-Chair, providing an
outline of the process. As only one member had come forward
for appointment as Chair, Jutta Van Huss was acclaimed as
Chair for the Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee for a term
ending November 30, 2014.
D. Shields asked for any members interested in the position of
Vice-Chair.
As only one member came forward for the position of Vice-Chair,
Charles Sopher was appointed as Vice-Chair for the Heritage
Pickering Advisory Committee for a term ending November 30,
2014.
D. Shields informed the Committee that she had concluded her
facilitator pilot project and she would be preparing a report which
would be going forward at the end of 2014.
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2.0 Delegations --
Dave Marlowe, Accessibility Coordinator, City of Pickering,
appeared before the Committee to provide training on the
Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act as mandated by
the province.
3.0 Minutes
J. Van Huss assumed the Chair.
Moved by W. Jamadar
Seconded by T. Besso
That the minutes of the September 26, 2013 meeting of the
Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee be approved.
Carried
4.0 Business Arising from Minutes
4.1) Doors Open Update
T. Besso provided members with an update of the Doors Open
program which had taken place on October 5th. He noted that
while the weather was not ideal, the overall feedback was good,
even though general attendance was down from 2011. He
indicated the sub-committee was working with Heritage Trust to
determine why attendance had dropped. He stated the program
may need to go through several cycles to determine the true
market.
J. Van Huss noted that feedback she had received indicated a lot
of residents were unaware of the program, they felt there was not
enough advertising, and there were some language barriers.
C. Celebre noted attendance could have been better in 2011 due
to extensive advertising as a result of it being held in conjunction -
with the City of Pickering's Bicentennial celebrations. She also
stated that the Claremont site was very successful, and
discussed some suggestions the sub-committee were considering
for the next event;
• Changing the time of year to hold the event
• Rotating sites
• Advertising
• Interactive website for walking tours with a self-guided
map for residents to do at their own pace to generate more
interest
T. Reimer suggested signage in strategic areas.
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C. Celebre noted she is putting together a report. The surveys
filled out during the program have gone to Ontario Heritage Trust,
and once their report has been prepared, they will forward the
results onto us.
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5.1) Heritage Permit— 3195 Factory Street
C. Celebre provided members with an overview of the heritage
permit application received for 3195 Factory Street to remove
and replace part of the building, which had been forwarded
through email to all members. She provided a brief history of
renovations completed over the past six months. She reviewed
the recommendations listed, noting that the applicant was in
agreement with the proposed recommendations. She explained
the main concern the owners had was with respect to water
damage, they wanted to ensure the structure would be protected
against any future water damage.
Discussion ensued with respect to the application.
C. Sopher noted that the principal of heritage conservation was to
repair and restore before replacement.
C. Celebre noted she had had extensive conversations with the
owners of the property regarding the previous minor heritage
permits including materials for the windows, siding and roof
replacement. She also noted she had suggested to the owner
that they submit one heritage permit application, but instead the
owner chose to submit individual applications in the last six
months. She explained that a lot of effort went into trying to
match what was there, emphasizing that the Whitevale Heritage
Conservation District Guide is a guide only, and all efforts are
made to encourage repair rather than replacement.
C. Sopher noted his concern with setting a precedent on this,
stating it was important to encourage people in a heritage
conservation district on the reuse of conservation materials.
C. Rodrigues questioned why windows would not be considered
more than minor renovations.
C. Sopher questioned whether the Committee could change the
process as identified in the Heritage Conservation District Guide
to allow the Committee to consider items such as windows, etc.
which encourage residents to maintain their houses, but noted
there is a lack of enforcement.
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Discussion ensued with respect to the use of materials and the
lack of enforcement.
Moved by Councillor Rodrigues
Seconded by C. Sopher
That the Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee review and
comment on all minor heritage permit applications with respect to
roofing, windows, siding and detached garages.
Carried
Further discussion ensued with respect to the recommendations
contained in the ERA Architects Inc. report to be addressed as
part of the application review process as follows;
• Provide grading and/or swales at the east side of the
house to ensure water is directed away from the house
• Provide building details at the connection of the new roof
to the existing house —this area should be appropriately
flashed
• Where possible, salvage existing timbers, boards and
other materials and/or hardware for reuse on this
property or other heritage place; and
• Update/redline building permit drawings to reflect the
wood siding, roof shingle, door and window treatments
described in the "Heritage Application — Kitchen
Restoration".
C. Sopher questioned the salvage materials, how they will be
used and how this process be followed through.
Moved by T. Besso
Seconded by W. Jamadar
That the Committee support the recommendations of ERA
Architects Inc. and recommend that staff request the Building
Department review the plans to ensure the grading/or swales
directs the water away from the house.
Carried
5.2) Del Management Solutions Inc.
C. Celebre provided an overview of properties located at 325
Highway 7, 1710 Whitevale Road and 2865 Sildeline 16, which
were previously distributed through email. She explained these
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properties are proposed for demolition by Infrastructure Ontario
and was bringing this before the Committee to determine whether
there was any heritage significance.
She noted that while they fall within the boundaries of the Seaton
Urban Area, they are not identified as Heritage Lots in the Seaton
policy.
Discussion ensued on pursuing the protection of these properties.
Moved by T. Besso
Seconded by C. Sopher
That Heritage Pickering recommends staff move forward and
investigate a heritage evaluation review on the above three
properties.
Carried.
5.3) 1390 and 1450 Whitevale Road
C. Celebre advised members that she had received an intent to
demolition two barns and outbuildings located on Mattamy lands.
The barns and outbuildings from 1390 and 1450 Whitevale Road
are located on the proposed Mattamy Subdivision Plan. She
noted that 1390 and 1450 Whitevale Road properties are
heritage lots on the Seaton Plan and listed on the City's
Municipal Register. The applicant had provided heritage
assessments for the barns and outbuildings, which were passed
around for members to review. She noted she was looking for
comments from the Committee, whether there were any issues or
potentially if the Committee would like to pursue designation.
Members reviewed the materials provided and discussion ensued
with. J. Van Huss questioning whether the Committee felt there
was sufficient merit to pursue designation. The general
consensus of the Committee is noted as follows:
• that while it was regrettable to consider demolition, they do
not oppose the proposed demolition of 1450 Whitevale
Road;
• concerns were noted over loss of barns on character roads
• the Committee would like to know whether the Museum or
any other organizations would be interested in obtaining
salvage items and look into how they would have access
to these items; and
• it was questioned how the Committee could follow up and
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document salvage materials. •
It was recommended that 1390 Whitevale Road be placed on the
November 28th agenda for consideration as the information was
not available.
6.0 Correspondence
6.1) Heritage Matters
The Heritage Matters publication was received for information.
6.2) CHO News
The CHO News •ublication was received for information.
7.0 Other Business
7.1) C. Sopher provided an overview of the workshop some of
the members had attended in Ajax on October 3rd. He noted it
was a very informative workshop, which was well attended,
providing information on the functionality of heritage districts,
what makes them work, what doesn't work. J. Van Huss noted
they had also discussed property values, insurance, signage and
access to websites. She also provided the website for members
to access information from the workshop.
www.waterloo.ca/hrc
7.2) Councillor Rodrigues questioned workplan updates. It was
noted that this would be placed on all future agendas for updates.
8.0 Next Meeting/Adjournment
Next Meeting: November 28, 2013
The meeting adjourned at 9:55 pm.
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