HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 27, 2013 City oq a, Minutes
ill Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee
, ;� 40"1. ;: June 27, 2013
PICKERIN 7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees: T. Besso
S. lyer
W. Jamadar
M. Sawchuck
S. Sheehan
C. Sopher
J. Van Huss
C. Celebre, Senior Planner, Development Review & Heritage
T. Dole, Water Resources Engineer
L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
Absent: Councillor Rodrigues
R. Lattouf
E. Mason
T. Reimer
D. Rundle
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1.0 Welcome
C. Celebre welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2.0 Minutes
Moved by M. Sawchuck
Seconded by C. Sopher
That the agenda be approved as circulated.
Carried
Moved by W. Jamadar
Seconded by J. Van Huss
That the minutes of the May 23, 2013 meeting of the Heritage
Pickering Advisory Committee be approved.
Carried
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3.0 Delegations
C. Celebre introduced Tom Dole, Water Resources Engineer
with the City of Pickering.
T. Dole appeared before the Committee to provide an overview
of the recently completed Whitevale Drainage Master Plan
Environmental Assessment. He outlined the study area, noting
that due to extreme rainfall in 2008, the flooding in the hamlet
caused severe damage to the bridge. As a result of this, the
study was undertaken to comprehensively address the
deficiencies in Whitevale's drainage system.
Mr. Dole explained that a Stage 1 Archeological Assessment
was completed as part of the study which indicated 11
locations where Stage 2 Archeological Assessments will be
required at the detailed design stage.
He provided an outline of alternative solutions, noting that one
of the evaluation criteria was the potential for affects on
cultural/built heritage resources. The preferred alternatives
from the study are all consistent with the Hamlet of Whitevale
Heritage Conservation District Study.
Mr. Dole outlined the next steps as follows;
• Road needs study
• Capital Works Forecast
• Budget Request to Council
• Detailed Design
A question and answer period ensued.
C. Sopher noted the following concerns and questions:
• Would like to see material Circulated to members
sooner in order to review before providing comments.
• Questioned whether the Seaton development would
change the catchment area.
• Felt impact would be on a number of items including
wells, trees and buildings in Whitevale.
• Questioned the necessity of digging a new ditch when
the development in Seaton could make it unnecessary.
• Questioned, why not build a pond.
C. Sopher also noted concerns that there would be no
opportunity to make changes at the design detail stage.
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T. Dole and C. Celebre responded to member's concerns,
noting that a number of these issues will be addressed at the
detailed design stage. Currently the City is at the road needs
study stage.
C. Celebre noted that the EA was being presented to the
Committee for information because the EA study is located in
the Whitevale Conservation District and there are guiding
principles in the plan that speak to Public Works.
C. Celebre read from the District Guidelines which states that
Public Works must be carried out with sensitivity to the historic
rural content of the District. C. Celebre and T. Dole also
advised that there have been meetings with the Whitevale
Citizens Drainage Committee regarding this project.
C. Celebre noted that the alternatives provided through the EA
do consider the historic character of the area She advised that
the Committee's comments will be forwarded to engineering
staff. She also noted she would forward the link to the City's
website for members to review the EA if they would like to
review further.
T. Dole stated there will be additional consultation with the
Committee at the detailed design stage.
J. Van Huss questioned whether the members could be sent
information on the design elements.
W. Jamadar questioned whether comments would have any
impact once the final design is presented.
C. Sopher stated that if the work is not required due to the
future development of Seaton, this should be a consideration.
T. Dole responded that as there is no firm time frame for this
work and it may not take place for many years, it does not
address the drainage system deficiencies as they exist today.
C. Sopher noted the residents felt that Alternatives 3 were
more appropriate as opposed to Alternative 5 (the preferred
alternative), which is what the detailed design will be based on.
T.Dole responded that Alternative 3 was not selected as it had
hie h costs due to the need for ace uirin• land.
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4.2 Doors Open Update
M. Sawchuck provided an update on the Doors Open Program.
He stated all sites have been confirmed with a total of 21 this
year, with approximately 1/3 of them being new to the program.
They are moving ahead with promotional materials and have
held a meeting with the participants which was well attended.
T. Besso stated the next steps would include arranging the bus
tours.
C. Celebre noted the City of Pickering has prepared draft
maps, with the Frenchman's Bay tour still to be finalized.
M. Sawchuck also noted that they still need to meet with the
site representatives to discuss programming for their site.
Discussion also ensued with respect to the bus company, and
budget.
C. Celebre informed the Committee that they can always use
additional volunteers, if any members would like to participate.
4.0 Other Business
4.1) Updates
C. Celebre noted the designation by-law for 560 Park Crescent
would be going to Council on July 8, 2013.
C. Celebre provided an update with respect to the demolition on
Mulberry Lane as C. Sopher questioned ownership of the
property at the time of the demolition, as he understood it to be
owned by a developer. She stated that when researching
ownership at the time of demolition and with consultation with the
Building Department, it was determined that this property was
owned by the Province; therefore no demolition permit was
required or issued.
C. Celebre provided an update on the application for Front Road.
She stated the variance was approved and the applicant would
work with the City of Pickering on final design details. She noted
the applicants had been informed of the Committee's comments
from the May 23rd meeting.
C. Sopher had questions regarding the stone house that was
demolished on Brock Road and if a permit was issued.
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C. Celebre to
C.Celebre noted that she would look into this and consult the action
Building Department.
4.2) M. Sawchuck questioned the 5,000 acres being allocated for C. Celebre to
the Urban Park and whether it was being investigated to see if action
any heritage homes exist on the property.
Discussion ensued with respect to listing properties owned by the
Provincial and Federal governments and whether they could be
listed if they were situated in a park. It was felt this was important
to proceed with and C. Celebre noted she would look into this
and send out information.
The importance of listing properties was discussed, noting this as
the best way to protect heritage.
C. Celebre noted that a lot of research had already been
conducted on properties located in the Seaton lands, which
would make it easier to move forward with potential listing of the
properties should ownership change.
4.3) M. Sawchuck noted he was continuing his work on updating
the register and listings and would go through the research done
by Unterman to compile a new listing for the purpose of preparing
an updated register for Council approval.
Discussion ensued with respect to focusing on South Pickering,
the Dunbarton area in particular, as an area for potential property
listing. It was also discussed whether to list everything, or just
the obvious properties, and how best to educate the public on the
benefits of listing their property.
W. Jamadar questioned how to determine the heritage L. Roberts to
significance for the register, and whether you could search the action
database by year. He also questioned the evaluation sheet
which had been prepared previously. L. Roberts to look into and
email to members.
Discussion also took place with respect to possible incentives for C. Celebre to
residents to designate their property, such as tax rebate look into grant
programs and grants and whether funds in the Heritage Budget programs
could be included or reallocated for this.
Moved by W. Jamadar
Seconded by J. Van Huss
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That the next scheduled meeting of Heritage Pickering be held on
September 26, 2013
5.0 Next Meeting/Adjournment
Next Meeting: September 26, 2013
The meeting adjourned at 9:10 pm.
Copy: City Clerk
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