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Minutes
Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee
May 23, 2013
7:00 pm
Main Committee Room
Attendees: Councillor Rodrigues
S. lyer
W. Jamadar
R. Lattouf
E. Mason
T. Reimer
D. Rundle
C. Sopher
J. Van Huss
C. Celebre, Senior Planner, Development Review & Heritage
D: Selsky, Supervisor of Engineering
L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
Absent: T. Besso
M. Sawchuck
S. Sheehan
Guests: John Semjan, Bridge Manager, GHD
Lynn Collins, Senior Environmental Project Coordinator, GHD
Wayne Cassidy, Cassidy &Company Architectural Technologist
Jessie & Jodie Gray
Lloyd Thomas
Don Anderson
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1.0
Welcome
C. Celebre welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced
the delegations who were in attendance.
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Minutes
Moved by W. Jamadar
Seconded by R. Lattouf
That the minutes of the April 17, 2013 meeting of the Heritage
Pickering Advisory Committee be approved as amended.
Carried
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Delegations
1. 699 Front Road
C. Celebre provided an overview of the minor variance
application submitted by Jessie & Jodie Gray for 699 Front
Road. She informed members that consultation is not
required by the Committee as the property is not listed on the
City of Pickering Municipal Heritage Register or designated
under the Ontario Heritage Act. It is however, identified on
the City of Pickering Inventory of Heritage Properties
prepared by Unterman McPhail Associates dated February
2002 and due to the age of the building, significant
alterations and addition being proposed, it was
recommended that the Committee of Adjustment defer the
application to allow the Heritage Pickering Advisory
Committee to review and comment on the application.
C. Celebre noted that the applicants Jessie & Jodie Gray as
well as their architect, Wayne Cassidy were present.
Mr. Cassidy appeared before the Committee to provide an
overview of the design details for the proposed application.
He noted it was important to the owners to showcase their
copperworks business, and were planning to incorporate this
into the design. He also noted their need to expand on the
current square footage to accommodate their growing family.
A question and answer period ensued with respect to the
materials being used, garage access, windows and trim
being reflective of the 1St storey. Jessie Gray, the applicant,
provided clarification to questions raised. He also noted he
is trying to complement the area, and he has family members
currently residing on the street.
Members comments were noted as follows;
• Should be kept in the style in which it was identified
• If using the benefit of the minor variance, it should be
in the cottage style
• The latest drawings provided were more in keeping
with the existing cottage style
• Better to add onto an existing structure rather than
tear down
The following questions were raised;
• proposed height of the structure
• Are there similar houses in the neighbourhood
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adjacent to this property identified as heritage
• current and proposed square footage
• was a circulation notification to adjacent property
owners done
• Will the posts in the archway be incorporated into the
garage
C. Celebre questioned the applicant whether there would be
an opportunity to make alterations to the most recent design
details which would be more compatible with the original
structure such as including changing the side addition roof to
a front gable roof, change the archway to a square
rectangular shape, consider the use of columns in the
archway and consider the addition of vertical railings.
E. Mason noted that at a previous meeting, the Committee
had determined there should be more time allowed for the
members to visit sites. prior to making any recommendations
or commenting on applications.
Moved by E. Mason
Seconded by Councillor Rodrigues
That any comments or recommendations be deferred for a
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period of one week to allow members to conduct a site visit.
action
This would allow the applicant to go forward as planned to
the next Committee of Adjustment meeting.
Carried
C. Celebre noted that all comments from the Committee
could be forwarded to her and she would summarize the
comments and provide her comments which would be
forwarded to the members as well as the applicant for their
consideration.
2. Whitevale Bridge Heritage Permit
C. Celebre introduced the City of Pickering's consultants from
the Sernas Group Inc. as well as Darrell Selsky, Supervisor,
Engineering, City of Pickering, who were in attendance to
provide an overview of the bridge replacement project and
heritage permit application for the Whitevale Bridge. She
advised that under the Ontario Heritage Act, Council shall
consult with the Heritage Advisory Committee prior to
considering the Heritage Permit application.
John Sem'an, Bridge Manager, The Sernas Groups Inc.
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(GHD) and Lynn Collins, Senior Environmental Project
Coordinator, appeared before the Committee. Through the
aid of a power point presentation and a handout of the plans
for the bridge replacement, Mr. Semjan outlined the
proposed bridge design elements and materials to be used.
He noted the existing bridge width is 8.6 metres and the
proposed width is 11.6 metres. Mr. Semjan noted the bridge
span is currently 32 metres with 36 metres being proposed.
TRCA had requested a 112 metre span. He noted that the
Environmental Assessment had been completed and the
recommendations contained in the report had been
accepted. He stated that a public open houses had been
held and that ongoing meetings were being conducted with
the public as well as the Whitevale Bridge Committee.
He provided background information and outlined mitigation
strategies including the following;
• Erection of plaque to commemorate the site
• Incorporate elements of the existing bridge into the
community park
• Salvage of remnants from the old bridge and railings
with location to be determined by the City in
consultation with the Whitevale Bridge Committee
• ensure design of new bridge will respect the character
of the hamlet of Whitevale
Mr. Semjan outlined the modifications of the design
considerations which have been made as a result of the
consultation process. He explained the design elements
considered to address the visual character of the site, as well
as the materials to be used. He also explained the safety
standards in place to protect all users of the road.
A detailed question and answer period ensued with Mr.
Semjan and Ms. Collins providing clarification as required.
C. Sopher questioned whether there were any design
alternatives for the guardrails that would meet safety
requirements and requested that pictures of alternatives be
forwarded to him. He noted the importance of being .
complimentary to the community. He also questioned the
construction of a separate pedestrian bridge.
Discussion ensued with respect to a pedestrian bridge and
the importance of this to help minimize the impact from
construction as well as allowing a safe crossing for hikers.
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E. Mason questioned whether there was any recourse now
that the EA has been completed.
Lloyd Thomas noted that the concerns from the Whitevale
and Distrcit Residents' Association were mainly with respect
to the width of -the bridge and length of the guardrails. He
noted that TRCA would like hikers to walk up and not climb
over the guardrails for safety reasons.
D. Selsky, Supervisor of Engineering, noted that the
pedestrian bridge is an entirely separate project. He also
explained that the current extent of deterioration of the bridge
which presents significant safety concerns, and the need to
move ahead with the project.
Ms. Collins noted that TRCA has confirmed they support the
EA as approved.
Comments and recommendations are noted as follows:
Members were in support of the Texas classic railing, green
rock protection planted with native shrubs proposed and
filling in of precast beam webs.
Suggestions and comments included;.
• Alternatives to steel guide rails
• Construct new bridge to match the scale of existing
bridge
• Remove the north sidewalk
• Reduce width of bridge
• Reduce length of guiderails
• Use alternate material to concrete for curbs
• Construct a pedestrian bridge
• Concerns with guiderail adjacent to the trail
• Reduce speed on bridge
• Work with City to erect a plaque to commemorate the
site
• Work with future Whitevale Plaque Program
• Work with City to install flower planters
• Investigate the salvage of remnant materials from
former bridge and incorporate into community park
Moved by R. lyer
Seconded by R. Lattouf
That the recommendations noted above be forwarded to
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Council for consideration of the Heritage Permit application.
Carried
C. Celebre explained the process involved with the heritage
permit application. She advised that she would summarize
the Committee's recommendations in a report for Council's
consideration of the Heritaae Permit application..
4.1) C. Sopher questioned whether the legal opinion
requested at a previous meeting regarding the Heritage District
had been received. C. Celebre clarified that this was
determined in the Board's decision during the Phase 2 OMB
hearings which was presented to the Committee at the April 17,
2013 Heritage Committee meeting.
4.2) C. Sopher questioned whether a demolition permit had C. Celebre to
been issued for Mulbery Lane and why this was taken down if action
no permit was issued. He stated the building was from 1860
and was on a heritage lot.
4.3) E. Mason questioned the procedures for presenting at the
OMB hearing. C. Celebre noted the hearing is in its third
phase and suggested that this was handled through the OMB
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5.0 Next Meetinc
Next Meeting
The meeting
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