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Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee
i April 17, 2013
PICKERING 7:00 pm
Tower Room
Attendees: Councillor Rodrigues
T. Besso
R. Lattouf
E. Mason
T. Reimer
D. Rundle
M. Sawchuck
S. Sheehan
C. Sopher
J. Van Huss
D. Shields, City Clerk
C. Celebre, Senior Planner, Development Review & Heritage
L. Roberts, Recording Secretary
Absent: S.lyer
W. Jamadar
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1.0 1 Welcome
D. Shields welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced -
two newly appointed members, Rolland Lattouf and Tom
Reimer. Introductions were made around the table.
2.0 1 Approval of Minutes
Discussion ensued with amendments to the minutes.
Moved by T. Besso
Seconded by M. Sawchuck
That the minutes of the March 21, 2013 meeting of the Heritage
Pickering Advisory Committee be approved as amended.
Carried
3.1) The Bear & The Firkin
Discussion ensued with respect to The Bear & Firkin located on
the northwest corner of Liverpool and Kingston Road.
C. Celebre noted new tenants have indicated a desire to have
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old photographs of this building It was suggested possibly
Becky George at the Pickering Library or John Sabean could
be contacted in this regard.
M. Sawchuck noted he is continuing to follow up with the
property owner for the Doors Open program.
T. Besso noted the background research has been done on this
property, and the Committee should continue to pursue a
designation.
3.2) 560 Park Crescent
D. Shields provided an update with respect to the Newman
House at 560 Park Crescent. She informed members that the
appeal has been withdrawn and that the City of Pickering
would be moving ahead with the next steps in the designation
process.
She provided a brief outline of the background information on
this property for the benefit of the new members.
3.3) Seaton Draft Plans of Subdivision
C. Celebre provided members with an update on the recent
OMB decision and providW the Committee with copies of the
plans for Neighbourhoods 18, 19 and 20, as well as the memo
containing the summary of issues from the March 26th walking
tour with Dr. Carl Bray.
Through the aid of a power point presentation, C. Celebre
assisted the Committee through the separate plans of
subdivision for these 3 neighbourhood plans. She explained
the comments would be forwarded to staff and the developers
in order to work through as many of the issues as possible prior
to proceeding onto the next phase of the OMB hearing.
E. Mason noted her concern with the approval process,
questioning how these decisions can be made without details
such as architectural design, lighting, etc. not be provided. She
also questioned whether the Committee could comment on the
surrounding lots regarding access points and viewpoints.
C. Celebre explained the purpose of the design guidelines to
identify such issues under draft plan approval. She noted that
OPA 22 identifies policies and principals relative to heritage.
C. Celebre explained that design guidelines will be a condition
C. Celebre to look into
of draft plan approval. It was also questioned whether the
Committee could have input with respect to creating guidelines
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for these detail aspects and how they would be addressed. E.
Mason stated she felt the policies did not go far enough.
D. Shields noted that the main focus of the Committee at this
point is to concentrate on protecting the heritage lots.
C. Sopher stated that the Committee had not been asked to
comment on transportation issues, in particular the traffic
diversion going into Whitevale.
Review of Plans
The Committee reviewed the plans in detail with the following
recommendations to be submitted by the Committee;
Heritage Lots
3250 Sideline 28
• Delete proposed street through lot
• Maintain open view southwest from house by
realignment of Street I
• Provide a buffer (deep setbacks) with proposed adjacent
townhouses to west and north
3215 Sideline 28
• Provide buffer to north by removing lots 234, 235 and
236
• Ensure buffer to east, perhaps by removing lots
Whitevale Cemetery (awaiting draft plan)
• Preferred option is to remove proposed development
from area east of cemetery over to next heritage lot
• Consider potential need to expand cemetery
• If development to east remains, ensure adjacent street is
tree -lined to enhance landscaped buffer
825 Whitevale Road (awaiting draft plan)
• In absence of draft plan, comments difficult, but lot
appears to have substantial landscape to act as buffer
to development to west and south
940 Whitevale Road, 3185 Sideline 26
• Preferred option is to realign proposed north /south
regional road to east side of HCD boundary, east of the
2 heritage lots flanking Whitevale Road
• If regional road remains in its current proposed
alignment, ensure that Block 391 is an effective
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landscaped or other buffer between heritage lot and
road ROW
• Block to north and 2 to east need to be removed to
provide adequate landscaped buffer for heritage lot
3185 Sideline 26
• Change medium density to low density on south side of
new street abutting south edge of heritage lot to provide
a more extensive landscaped buffer in the new
residential lots
1050 Whitevale Road (south portion) (awaiting draft plan)
• House, mature vegetation and large barn appear to be in
the NHS; abutting conditions in draft plan OK
1125 Whitevale Road
• Needs a complete rethink of the abutting residential lots;
reduce number, increase setback, delete proposed lots
that could encroach within boundary of heritage lots
1130 Whitevale Road
• Conserve the barn to north of farmhouse by shifting
residential lot over to have pedestrian corridor include
barn
1200 Whitevale Road
• Delete 2 lots on west and 2 lots on east side of heritage
lot; increase setbacks on abutting lots to north,
northwest and northeast or delete
Note: 1255, the John Tool house next to the modern
bungalow, now appears not to contain the stucco house
previously inventoried and is not shown as a heritage lot (it is
within the Local Node where the Whitevale bypass meets the
Whitevale Road corridor)
1390 Whitevale Road
• Delete townhouses west of heritage lot; add to NHS
• Delete south half of block to east of heritage lot, to
provide sight line from east; replace with open
landscaped buffer
1450 Whitevale Road
• Attempt to conserve large barn, now shown as being
within proposed Street 17
1505 Whitevale Road and 3285 Sideline 20 are private lots, not
within the draft plans
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• Increase setbacks on adjacent lots
Note: heritage lot shown on west side of Mulberry Lane, in the
NHS, no longer has built heritage resources (they were
demolished several years ago: Committee to confirm details).
1415 is shown as a heritage property on ORC mapping (for the
barn) but appears to be in private ownership and thus is not
part of the draft plan.
Whitevale Road Corridor (within and beyond the Whitevale
HCD boundary)
• Build the Whitevale bypass first, to prevent the existing
Whitevale Road corridor from acquiring heavy through
traffic
• Request ORC to designate all heritage lots under Part
IV of the Ontario Heritage Lots and sell them as soon as
possible
• Abutting residential lots should be larger, with ample
side yards, to provide visual "porosity" along corridor
• Avoid street lighting along corridor
• East of the Whitevale bypass, retain mature trees along
at least one side of the new widened ROW
• The draft plans appear to encroach on significant natural
and cultural features such as the old Lake Iroquois
shoreline
General Comments
In conclusion, together with the above, we note that the
proposed regional road at Sideline 26 road alignment is a
major travesty and compromises the principles laid out in the
North Pickering Land Exchange and Development. Should this
proposed regional road become reality this will have a
significant impact on the Whtievale Hamlet HCD and two
heritage lots. The re- alignment of the proposed regional road
to the east of Lots #940 Whitevale Road and #3185 Sideline
26, would result in a more appropriate relationship between the
character road, the green space and heritage properties and
leave the HCD intact.
We ask that staff, Council and the OMB give due consideration
and thought to our comments and that these are taken on
board and adopted into the Plan.
E. Mason noted she felt the summary of issues was not worded
strongly enough. It was the consensus of the Committee to
accept the list of issues with the revisions made. E. Mason and
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C. Sopher will work on the wording within the next week in
order to have them submitted to staff.
Moved by M. Sawchuck
Seconded by Councillor Rodrigues
That the Heritage Pickering Advisory Committee accept the
recommendations outlined in Dr. Carl Bray's memo dated
March 28, 2013 with the revisions noted.
Carried
4.1) Vintage B
Correspondence received from Vintage Brick, Concord Ontario
was received for information purposes.
15.0 1 Next Meeting /Adjournment
Next Meeting: May 23, 2013
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 pm.
Copy: City Clerk
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