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"PICKERING TOWNSHIP ORAL HISTORY PROJECT
Summer 1972"
"Ontario
Ministry of
Culture, Tourism and Recreation
Ministere de la Culture, du Tourisme et des Loisirs
Archives of Ontario
77 Grenville Street
Toronto ON M7A 2R9
Tel: (416) 327-1600
Fax: (416) 327-1999
Archives publiques de l'Ontario
77 rue Grenville
Toronto ON M7A 2R9
Tel. : (416)327-1600
Telec. : (416)327-1999
Ms. Maureen McVarish
Librarian,
Pickering Public Library
One, The Esplanade
Pickering, ON,
P.O. Box #368
Pickering, ON.
L1V 2R6
13 July 1994
Enclosed are the twenty-five audio cassettes supplied to duplicate the Pickering
Township Oral History Project; one cassette is returned unused. The Archives of Ontario
reference code (RG 17, AV 5), the original reel number, the interviewee, and the date of
the interview are recorded on the cassette jacket. These interviews were recorded from
a open reel tapes and two or more cassettes were sometimes required to duplicate the
entire interview. Also enclosed are photocopies of accompanying documentation list of
interviewees, a newspaper article, and a project description supplied by the project
supervisor contains bibliographic notes.
Please note that all the interviews are in the public domain and that the copyright to the
collection was transferred to the Archives of Ontario. Tape release forms were
completed for ten (of the fourteen) interviews and access is restricted to these ten
interviews. Tape release forms did not accompany the four following interviews:
N.F. Tomlinson, Lloyd Johnston, Edna Green, and Fred and Muriel Gostick.
The Archives of Ontario has listened to these four cassettes for sensitivity and has
determined that the informational content is not sensitive and is appropriate for
general access to the cassettes. As such, the entire collection can be made available
to the public for research use and for copying.
Please call us at 416-327-1551 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Donna E. Prystupa, Archivist
20-120
"
"PICKERING TOWNSHIP ORAL HISTORY PROJECT, Summer, 1972. 13 reels, 14
interviews.
reel A, side 1 - N.F. Tomlinson, M.D., Claremont, Ont., 14 June, 1972. 1 1/2 hr., 3 3/4
i.p.s. Release not signed. 5-1
B, side 1 - Hugh Miller, Brougham, Ont., 21 June, 1972. 1 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. 5-2
C, side 1 - Lloyd Johnston, Brougham, Ont., 23 June, 1972. 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Release not signed. 5-3
D, side 1 - Sydney Pugh, Greenwood, 29 June, 1972.
3/4 hr., 3 2/4 i.p.s. No reproduction may be made without written permission from the
interviewee. 5-4
E, side 1 - The Browns of Salem Rd., 12 July, 1972.
2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
side 2 - continuation, 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Reproduction requires written permission from
interviewees. 5-5
F, side 1 - Andrew Glenn, Conc. 5, 20 July, 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. 5-6
G, side 1 - Miss Edna Green, Greenwood, Ont., 28 July, 1972. 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Closed until July, 1977. 5-7
H, side 1 - Allan & William Clark, Greenwood, Ont., 3 August 1972 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
side 2 - continuation, 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Closed until July 1977 5-8
I, side 1 - Howard Turner, Ajax, Ont., 16 Aug., 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Reproduction
requires written permission from the interviewee.
side 2 - Wellington Chester, West Hill, Ont., 17 Aug., 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Reproduction requires written permission from the interviewee. 5-9
J, side 1 - Mrs. Howard Malcolm, Locust Hill, Ont., 7 Sept., 1972. 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. 5-10
K, side 1 - Milton Parkin, Kinsale Rd., Ont., 16 Aug., 1972,
1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Reproduction requires written permission from the interviewee. 5-11
L, side 1 - James M. (Mac) Armstrong, Cherrywood, 21 Aug., 1972. 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
5-12
M, side 1 - Fred & Muriel Gostick, Conc. 7, Aug., 1972. 10 min., 3 3/4 i.p.s. No release.
5-13"
"APPENDIX A
PICKERING TOWNSHIP ORAL HISTORY PROJECT
Interviews on tape.
On August 22, 1972, six reels of tape were picked up from the Field Workers,
and the Supervisor listened to each in its entirety.
Andrew Glen, Con. 5 and Brock Rd.
Reel F (1 side)
An articulate Scotsman who came to Canada in 1912 and lived and worked in Toronto
until he became disenchanted with city life and purchased his farm in 1923. As a young
man Mr. Glen became interested in socialism and became a staunch pacifist.
In June, 1932 several local socialist groups met at his farm to form the nucleus of a
provincial organization which they hoped would form part of a national socialist party
under the leadership of Mr. J.S. Woodsworth. During the late 1930’s, Mr. Glen was a
regular columnist for the Toronto Star, but with the coming of the war, his pacifism
became suspect. Eventually his home was searched by the Provincial police, and some
of his property seized.
On tape, Mr. Glen recalls the problems of maintaining a rural way of life during the
depression; offers the results of his small researches into the history of his farm,
Thompson's Corners, and the Township; and indicates that a large portion of his
personal papers relating to his involvement with socialism have been deposited in the
Queens University Archives at Kingston.
Dr, N.F. Tomlinson, Claremont
Reel A (1 side)
Congenial country Doctor who was a teacher for several years before beginning the
study of Medicine, in Toronto, in 1911. He interned at Gravenhurst where he tended
W.W. I veterans, then moved to Claremont, near his birth-place, in 1919.
He served for 22 years as the Township Medical Health Officer and had a small,
three-room facility in his home where he carried out minor surgery and obstetrics.
In 1919 he was one of three Doctors in the Township, the others being at Brougham
and Pickering.
""Doc"" Tomlinson records some general autobiography and memories about early
20th century drugs, drug peddlars, home cures, patent medicines, difficulties of making
house calls in Winter snow and Spring mud with horses and early automobiles,
and advances in hygene and medical aids, such, as pastuerization to prevent high
rates of infant mortality, and sulfa drugs to treat pneumonia and other killers.
He recalls his classmate in Medical School, Dr. Norman Bethune,
and answers as best he can questions pertaining to the Mennonite families of Altona
area, the Masonic organization in Brougham and Claremont, and other local history.
"
"William & Allan Clarke, Greenwood
Reel H (2 sides)
Musically-inclined residents of one of the high points of the Township.
William is a Farmer, Allan a High School Teacher, and both have been masters of the
fiddle in the popular idiom since teenage years on 'fiddler's hill'.
This tape is rich in anecdote, folk-lore, local color, and humor, and provides details and
descriptions of many facets of rural life in the early decades of the 20th century.
The Clarkes fiddled at local dances and picnics, Allan has been organist for the
Greenwood church and has taught music in High School. The two men recounted on tape
anecdotes and recollections of picnics and dances; one of the chief sports in the area in
earlier years - sliding down Greenwood hill on bobsleds (some runs were clocked at over
80 m.p.h., and the sledder had to be skillful to line up with the iron bridge at the bottom
and avoid going into the creek. The entire school class could be taken down at one time
on multiple sleds tied together. Once, a rider fell off the back of a sled and had to make
the remainder of the trip down the hill as best he could.); local people, including ‘
characters’ and 'disreputables' who were forced into lawlessness by dire need;
methods of preserving food and maintaining a satisfying diet; changes in methods in
agriculture brought on by mechanization and the war; changes in recreational and social
habits brought about by the automobile and drive-in movies; and the change in the 'pace
of life' in the township as a result of the war and the establishment of a munitions factory
at Ajax (D.I.L. brought in shift work, and the pace of war production coupled with the
effectiveness of the war propaganda made some people reluctant to indulge in
recreational time, feeling that all their energies should be put into the war effort.).
The stamina of the pioneers is illustrated by an anecdote about the Clarke's Great
Uncle who walked from Toronto to Greenwood area to look over a farm he intended to
purchase, then walked back to his hotel in the city, all in one 18 hour day. A Greenwood '
character’, George Dunlop, one-time neighbor of ex-Prime Minister John Diefenbaker,
could easily outwalk a horse and refused his neighbors' offers of rides because he
couldn't take the time.
Lloyd Johnston, Brougham
Reel C (l side)
An obliging interviewee whose experience with the Township administration between
1939 and 1965 (1945-1965 as Township Clerk) qualifies him as a major source of
information about the physical growth and development of the Township;
the personalities, goals, ambitions and activities of the administrators with whom he
served; the trends in municipal government and local politics; and all the fascinating
details that flesh out the usually dry bones of the Township Council Minutes.
Unfortunately he was not queried about any of this and, interpreting the interview
situation as a question-answer, volunteered a minimum of information relating to his
life's work. Instead, he was questioned about general Pickering Township history about
which he was not too knowledgeable.
"
"Wellington Chester, Port Union
Reel I (side 2)
Unsteady voice of an 83 year old retired Farmer who once tilled an extensive farm in the
Port Union area. Mr. Chester recalled portions of the history and development of Port
Union and Frenchmans Bay area which had effected him, and recounted stories of
ghosts in the local graveyard, the difficulties encountered by the local residents in having
to adjust to the moral standards of the city people who came to the lake-front to build
cottages, and vivid memories of his school days with their more violent, and more
effective, guidance systems. He also refers, to his years in Calgary, working in the stock
sheds as a young man.
Howard Turner, Ajax
Reel I (side l)
Affable retired Farmer who, in spite of his 86 years, sounds remarkably young and strong.
His Grandfather bought portions of Lots 29 and 30, Con. 5 in 1841 and established a
homestead. In 1955, Mr. Turner sold the farm and retired in Ajax. He recalls on tape
some of the events of his boy-hood days at Whitevale and the Rouge River area,
and life as it was lived in a less mechanized era, involving winter sleighing, sports,
school picnics, parades, boating, teachers who strongly believed in corporal punishment,
and labor wages of $l.00 per day.
Mr. Turner remembers struggling to deliver ballot boxes to polling stations in Winter by
horse, train, and foot; changes in agricultural methods and implements as Ontario
Farmers learned from the western Canadian experience and adapted to steam and
gasoline from horses; taxes of $150. on 220 acres in 1912; the English motorcycle he
purchased in 1910 which could take him to Toronto in 3/4 hour; the 1916 Titan tractor
that could plow 11 acres per day and which he purchased for the price of 1500 bushels
of wheat; and many other interesting details of farm life.
William Brown Sr., William A. Brown Jr., and Family, Salem Rd.
Reel E (2 sides)
Possibly a typical farm family, descendants of Yorkshiremen who came to Canada in
1841. Their recollections are mainly of the Greenwood area, complementing and
occasionally corroborating the Clarke's recorded memories.
The interview was mainly with the younger William Brown (born 1932), aided,
in decreasing order of prominence, by his wife, father, and mother.
Some member of the family has evidently researched and drafted an extensive
family history and narrative of reminiscences, of which large portions
were read onto the tape. The tape, is therefore largely redundant to the history except
for the additional highlights, comments,
Attached: “Bill Brown Jr. never married
950521 SOURCE: Helen Hedge”
"
"explanations and elaborations which were added during the course of the interview
by the family members.
These elaborations included information about the beginnings of ""Farm Forum”,
which had its first meeting in the Kinsale Library and grew to become a national
organization; an instrument for collecting opinion from the farm community and for
disseminating information of a practical and technical nature to Farmer. Its G.B.C.
network radio show aired rural opinion and suggestions, and its local branches
provided social contact as well as an opinion forum where members could talk out
problems to concensus before sending discussion results in to headquarters.
Mr. Brown also elaborated on the history of the gravel pit operation on their farm
which had its beginnings in the 1930’s, and provided material for roads,
railway roadbeds, and buildings; and on the conflagration which destroyed F.L. Green's
large mills at Greenwood -the end of an era for F.L. Green, Greenwood, and the many
employees thrown out of work (1937).
On October 24, 1972 the remainder of the tape-recorded interviews were handed in,
and their approximate contents are as follows.
"
"Edna Green, Greenwood Rd. S.
Reel G (1 side)
Retired schoolteacher and great-granddaughter of ""Squire"" Frederick Green,
the country gentleman and Justice of the Peace who gave his name to the village.
Miss Green talks about her father's milling and dairy business, which more or less
came to an end in 1937 when the main mill burned down; the Squire's peonie garden,
her father’s employment practices, the cost and bother of maintaining a mill dam,
the beginning of sub-urban settlement in the Rouge Hill area where she was a
teacher for some time, and other subjects.
Perhaps of most interest is her comments about the seeming deterioration of the
community due to the movement into the Township of independent Toronto business
people, looking for peace and quiet. One cannot spend as much time chatting on the
telephone, and cannot feel as free to request a favor of a neighbor as in her youth.
People's priorities have become more self-centered rather than community-centered,
but there is more concern for the environment than before among the present generation.
Sydney Pugh, Greenwood
Reel D (1 side)
4th generation descendant of Hugh and Elizabeth Pugh who came from Wales in
1842 to settle on Lot 26, Concession 4. The interview mainly deals with the history of
Whitevale, supported by reference to a manuscript history of the village by Sydney Pugh's
father, who was Township Treasurer for twenty years. Mr. Pugh talks about Whitevale's
community leaders, businesses, buildings, bands, lodges, etc. He volunteers useful
information about house construction and how large logs were moved into the fireplace
with animals to help in maintaining a long-lasting fire. He comments about his
experiences with fishing in the local creeks and about changes in creek levels, floods,
and vegetation; the apple-growing and cider industries, basket factories,
and changes in local place names as a result of the coming of the railway.
Fred and Murial Gostick, 7th Concession
Reel M (196 ft.)
A very short interview, possibly because it was interrupted,as the interviewer
forgot to turn the recorder back on. The interview deals mainly with the conduct of
local auctions and provides the name of a professional auctioneer who worked in the
area.
Mrs. Howard Malcolm, 6th Concession
Reel J (1 side)
80-year old widow of one of the Township's farmers, she moved to this farm when
married in 1914, and still provides fascinating details about early 20th century farm life
in a clear knowledgeable voice.
She remembers: the concerts given by John White to rally support for his candidacy
for Township Council; home crafts and the days when she hired out as a seamstress
at fifty cents a day; makes of sewing machines available; her part in running the farm,
doing chores, working with horses and machinery - never got on to plowing with a
tractor, loading grain from the wagon into the barn with the use of horse-power,
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"steam threshing, marketing dairy products, beef rings, recreational activities,
the Temperance movement, church quilting bees to make blankets for the new
settlements in the north-west, and community efforts at dealing with the apple production.
She offers an explanation for the drying up of the local creeks, and attributes it to the
removal of the vegetation, which allowed water to evaporate rather than running through
the soil.
Mrs. Malcolm offers memories of: the dismantling of the Christian Church at the time of
union in 1925, home remedies - Burdock, Bonisat, Caster Oil, Senna Tea, and early
cures used for bronchial pneumonia.
She feels the change in the community noted by Miss Green. A once-visiting and
integrated community has broken down into groups who don't know or have much to do
with each other. T.V. has somewhat replaced the telephone as someone to listen to.
She expresses some anxiety that the children of long-time residents may leave home a
little more quickly as a result of their contacts with the children of the outsiders.
This interview is particularly valuable for its information about the operation of a farm
during her adult life, and for its comments on the changes developing in the community
since the war.
Milton Parkin, Kinsale
Reel K (1 side)
Born on the family farm in 1911, he learned farming by listening and by doing.
He is also a keen, observer and his talent for anecdote, unfortunately restrained
somewhat by the interviewers, occasionally bubbles up during the taping sessions.
The interview deals mainly with family and Kinsale history and legend, flavoured with
anecdotes about: the accidental invention of the grain blower by his mother's brother
about 1900; the unnamed township farmer who purchased the first reaping machine
and had two machines wrecked by nervous horses and jealous cradlers before he finally
was able to reap his grain with machine number three and the help of guards; the man
who rode shotgun with a blunderbus on the Highway #2 stage to keep off plunderers who
often hid in the trees and dropped down onto a passing stage.
He speaks of the American gold brought to the farm by his American ancestors and
remembers when Scarborough went bankrupt in 1936, causing a shift in economic
emphasis toward industry to provide an adequate tax base, and the subsequent
migration of farmers out of the Township. He remembers the struggle to survive and
keep the taxes paid during the depression and protests public attitude toward farm land
as recreational land - to be walked or ridden over at will, attitudes that debase rural
people as ignorant in comparison with urban laborers. The loss of freedom and the
imposition of restriction on agricultural land use and production, and the coming of
electricity are the two major changes he has seen in rural life. Early hydro was installed
on a 20-year contract, just before the depression, and farms with hydro were hard to
sell because electricity bills were hard to pay. The change from animals to machinery
was, in his opinion, detrimental because the farmer's feet lost contact
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"with the soil. Before the telephone, people could communicate by gunshot or by horns
made from couch shells and animal horns. Work animals knew the sound of the family
dinner horn and would stop work immediately on hearing it.
James ""Mac"" Armstrong, Cherrywood
Reel L (1 side)
Middle-aged farmer who was born on the family farm in 1923 - the same farm where his
grandfather spent his entire life. Mac Armstrong remembers some of his teachers at
Cherrywood school, flooding of Duffins Creek over Highway #2, and his cadet training at
Whitby during World War II. Rationing was not an overburdening problem for his family
but it was hard to preserve fruit without sugar, apple butter and maple sugar came back
into vogue temporarily, and victory gardens sprouted along the routes into Toronto.
At that time, people moved from the city looking for a cheaper way of life.
The farm didn't become mechanized until after the War, but hired labor was friendlier
than machines, and although horses were slow, they got the work done and allowed a
man time for leisure. People were displaced by D.I.L. There was more money to be
made in Ajax than on the farm, so the farmers became accustomed to being
short-handed. The influx of people from Toronto began before the depression with
the summer cottagers and those who wished to invest in farm land.
Eventually the cottagers sealed off the township's beaches from its residents with
fences and signs, but there were still swimmin' holes in the Little Rouge; Petticoat Creek,
and Duffins Creek.
He talks about the mills at Altona and Whitevale and their owners; the appearance of
Cherrywood in his boyhood; the Petty brickyard; the village blacksmith; and the problems
of going back to hand milking when the electricity was knocked out by hurricane Hazel.
Hugh Miller, lots 16, 17, 18, Con.7
Reel B (1 side)
Occupant and third-generation owner of a century farm one Concession north of
Brougham, Mr. Miller is a member of a family which holds a prominent place in the history
of agriculture - particularly animal husbandry - in Ontario. From small beginnings with
four sheep and two cows that he got as wages for four years work, Mr. Miller's grandfather
developed a business that imported prize breeding stock from England and Scotland
and distributed their progeny across North America. Among the agricultural firsts for the
farm are: first herd of Shropshire sheep brought to Ontario in 1877, and its decendants
still live on the farm; and first herd of Yorkshire pigs brought to Ontario.
More than a history of the farm, community, or township, this interview is a - probably
limited - view of Hugh Miller's very considerable knowledge of agricultural methods and
the history of animal husbandry in North America. But in addition, he gives information
about: the methods of construction of his pioneer stone house; the location of paintings
by Squire Birrell, one of the township's early prominent citizens; the purchasing of
breeding stock by the Americans to replenish the decimation wrought by the Civil War,
using gold because American paper
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"money was worthless; and how the local gypsies discovered the cure for ""cribbing"",
a quirk of nature that destroyed many valuable young horses.
As a sidelight and valued family legend, Mr. Miller's grandfather, a noted cattle judge,
was introduced to U.S. President William McKinley at the Ohio State Fair in Columbus
the day before the President was assassinated at Buffalo.
ONTARIO ARCHIVES
TORONTO
Ref: MU 2318- Audio Tape
This copy is made for research purposes only and not for reproduction without the
consent of the Archives of Ontario.
All responsibility for questions of copyright that may arise in the use of this print is
assumed by the recipient.
"
"Pickering Oral History Project (Summer 1972) – Evaluation
The terms of reference set out four activities for the project:
1. Oral history - tape recorded interviews.
2. Photography - preservation of a visual image of the land and
people as it existed in 1972.
3. Bibliography - locating and listing historical source material.
4. Recording of cemetery stone inscriptions.
1. Oral History - Between June 13 and September 30, 14 interviews were
recorded, totaling approximately 16 hours of conversation. Two of these are worth very
little: Lloyd Johnston, because he did not volunteer information and was not questioned
about matters with which he should be familiar; and Fred Gostick, because the recorder
was inexplicably turned off early in the interview.
The quality of the remainder of the tapes is quite acceptable, and one can get a pretty
fair view of what life was like in the township in the early 20th century by listening to them.
Taking into account the inexperience of the interviewers and their lack of knowledge of
the history of the township, and the willingness of the township residents to volunteer
information during a taping session, the tapes are quite good.
Whether or not the initiative of the students produced the maximum quatity of recorded
interviews for the project is open to question, particularly since they were reporting
upwards of seventy potential contacts in earlier progress reports. Undoubtedly the
normally busier Summer work schedule and the longer hours of sunlight which allowed
people to stay outdoors later in the evenings had an undeniable effect on this part of the
project, but there is probably a great deal left to be done.
If the purpose of this project was to document the complete history and appearance of the
township rather than just the history of that portion of the community which is rooted
through several generations of residence, there exists a serious deficiency.
Only one interview was done with a member of the other portions of the community
which is composed mainly of former urbanites who came to the township for: peace and
quiet, a cheaper way of life, investment, jobs (e.g. with D.I.L.), cottage lots, etc.
There would also seem to be a deficiency in that there was no interview with the
President of the Historical Society who, considering his former position as Reeve of the
township, would seem to be a prime source of information.
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"2. Photography - This part of the project yielded 128 frames (exposures) taken of 55
separate scenes. The descrepancy arises from the fact that several exposures were
often made of the same scene. With very few exceptions, this part of the project can be
considered to be a total loss. It was hoped that Mr. Nasby would produce photographic
essays of the quality that he did for the Guelph University student newspaper,
but nothing of that sort has so far been turned in.
Of the 40 rolls of film (36 pictures each) delivered to the students late in June,
25 rolls were returned unused, 6 portions of film in the form of developed negatives
(128 frames is the equivalent of 3-36 picture rolls and 1-20 picture roll) were returned,
Mr. Whiston stated he had used 2 for personal business, and 7 were ""presumed lost""
by Mr. Nasby in a signed statement. The possibility that Mr. Nasby is withholding film
because of personal, economic or altruistic reasons should not be discounted.
The subjects of the returned used film are:
Auction (possibly at Claremont)
Salem Church & Cemetery
Hugh Miller's farm
Brougham
Andrew Glenn's farm
Previous progress reports have mentioned photography done on the Gostick and
Grenfel Wilson farms, but this was not turned
In
3. Bibliography - The end product of this part of the project is a five-page list of material
held by 14 different people or families. Considering that many people may be reticent
about revealing the existence of family treasures - which presently have a greatly inflated
market value - especially if they suspect that the Provincial Archives will be alerted and
come calling, this result is probably about as good as could be expected.
4. Cemetery Inscriptions - Early in the project the students reported that they had
""located and identified"" all the cemeteries in the township, and some of the stones in
Salem Church cemetery were photographed. No transcribing of stone inscriptions was
done and aside from the photographs, nothing relating to cemeteries was turned in.
Therefore this part of the project was a loss.
It should be noted that the Ontario Genealogical Society, assuming that the students
were going to make some effort to record cemeteries, did not put any of their members
to work in the
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"township during the Summer and thereby lost the opportunity to accomplish some of the
work during good weather.
Summary
1. Oral History - 12 interviews in 15 weeks, good but not enough.
2. Photography - not quite a total loss.
3. Bibliography - good, but possibly not enough.
4. Cemetery Inscriptions - total loss.
7 November 1972
R. Nickerson Supervisor
"
"PICKERING TOWNSHIP ORAL HISTORY PROJECT, Summer, 1972. 13 reels,
14 interviews.
reel A, side 1 - N.F. Tomlinson, M.D., Claremont, Ont., 14 June, 1972. 1 1/2 hr., 3 3/4
i.p.s. Release not signed.
B, side 1 - Hugh Miller, Brougham, Ont., 21 June, 1972. 1 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
C, side 1 - Lloyd Johnston, Brougham, Ont., 23 June, 1972, 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Release
not signed.
D, side 1 - Sydney Pugh, Greenwood, 29 June, 1972. 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. No reproduction
may be made without written permission from the interviewee.
E, side 1 - The Browns of Salem Rd., 12 July, 1972. 2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
side 2 - continuation, 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Reproduction requires written permission from
interviewees.
F, side 1 - Andrew Glenn, Conc. 5, 20 July, 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
G, side 1 - Miss Edna Green, Greenwood, Ont., 28 July, 1972. 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Closed until July, 1977.
H, side 1 - Allan & William Clark, Greenwood, Ont., 3 August, 1972.
1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
side 2 - continuation, 1/2 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s. Closed until July, 1977.
I, side 1 - Howard Turner, Ajax, Ont., 16 Aug., 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Reproduction requires written permission from the interviewee.
side 2 - Wellington Chester, West Hill, Ont., 17 Aug., 1972. 3/4 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Reproduction requires written permission from the interviewee.
J, side 1 - Mrs. Howard Malcolm, Locust Hill, Ont., 7 Sept., 1972. 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
K, side 1 - Milton Parkin, Kinsale Rd., Ont., 16 Aug., 1972. 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
Reproduction requires written permission from the interviewee.
L, side 1 - James M. (Mac) Armstrong, Cherrywood, 21 Aug., 1972. 1 hr., 3 3/4 i.p.s.
M, side 1 - Fred & Muriel Gostick, Conc. 7, Aug., 1972. 10 min., 3 3/4 i.p.s. No release.
"
"APPENDIX B
PICKERING TOWNSHIP ORAL HISTORY PROJECT
Bibliography
Hugh Miller
A. Ontario Atlas 1877 (2)
B. London Times 1855 Crimean War Edition
C. Diary of Agnes Miller relating trip to Scotland from Canada from June 5, 1833.
D. Large collection of business letters of John Miller (ca. 1850-1910) relating to cattle &
sheep importation and exportation
E. Letter from Chief Justice Mullock (date ?)
F. Diaries of John Miller pertaining to the day to day activities on the homestead farm
G. Voter list of Pickering Twp. 1873
H. Accounts of early fairs in area and the Miller participation in same up to the time of the
CNE - fair catalogues and ribbons
Wellington Chester - West Hill, Ont.
A. Map of Ontario Co. (1910-1920) 36"" x 24"". The Map Company
B. Some deeds and other legal papers in bank in Toronto -not identified by location or
age
Andrew Glenn - Locust Hill, Ont.
A. photograph of participants in C.C.F. Conference 26 June 1932
B. Paintings by Mrs. A. Glenn of Pickering township (especially Conc. 5 around farm)
done in the 1920's - good views of the environment at that time
Frederick and Muriel Gostick
A. Stouffville Tribune - Aug. 27 1957 - on occassion of 125 years of Gosticks on conc.
7 - write-up of family history - fairly well researched
B. Scrap book put together in 1958 on occassion of centennial Qp Mount Pleasant
Public School on Con. 7 (S.S. No. 12)
- extensive but mostly newspaper clippings
C. Trustee book. Section No. 12 (Mount Pleasant Public School) Pickering Twp.
- starts Feb. 16th, 1854 - when school was log cabin
- minutes of operation and expenditures connected with school, including contracts for
teachers
- contains list of assessments for people in school area at end of 1853
- ends in 1898
- in excellent condition with much detail
D. Journal starting in 1831 of Minutes of Gostick Baptist Church (?) and cemetery lots
24-25 conc. 8 north (Rev. Thomas Gostick donated the land)
- description of people who founded same and their backgrounds
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"Frederick and Muriel Gostick (Cont'd)
- accounts of itinerant preachers both Baptist and Methodist
- richly detailed and in excellent condition
- ends in 1836
E. Journal by Thomas Fleming Gostick (Rev. Thomas Gostick's Son) containing much
of above but continuing from 1835 to 1948
- contains burial arrangements in cemetery
- excellent condition and complete
F. agreement to use 1/2 acre of land for driving shed at cemetery 1862
G. Gostick Tracy Centenary 25th June 1932
- write up of history by Fred Tracey.
H. Gostick family tree - mostly in England (from 13th C.)
- mention of Gosticks in Canada
- contains a letters written by Rev. Thom. Gostick in 1828 and 1859
I. Crown deed between Thomas Gostick and Crown Oct.11, 1836
J. Will of Rev. Thomas Gostick - Oct. 15, 1859
K. Will of Thomas Fleming Gostick - 1894
L. Cash book - Gostick Cemetery 1862 - 1914
M. Books too numerous to mention, some dating from 18th C. including 4th & 5th
Canadian series of School Books 1867 - 1868
Edna Green - Greenwood, Ont.
A. Lithograph of mill at Greenwood by G.J. Green
B. 1840 diary of great Uncle Jonathan Slater lived on corner Don Mills Rd. and hwy #7
- farmer
- day to day events
- former warden of York County
- ends in 1857
- reference pg. 307 Vol II ""History of Toronto and County of York (1885)
- good condition
C. Diary of Frederick Green dated 1833 - 1841
- account of sailing to Quebec and Montreal from Newmarket
- account of apprenticeship in New York City
- some ledger notes
- recipes for brewing
- fair condition - in pencil
D. Receipe ledger 1842 - 1850's
- wheat transactions etc. connected with mill
E. collection of photographs relating to Greenwood
Milton Parkin - Kinsale Road
A. Abstract of title to lot 2 conc. 6 N.E. Section from Kinsale dated 15 Oct. 1901 -
gives history of transactions.
B. ""Kinsale"" by Victoria Mowbray
C. Sales Bill to Mr. C. Pilkey (Pelletier) Oct. 29, 1918 lot 12 B.F. Conc. Pick. Twp.
D. Genelogy of Wm. Bagshaw and Sarah Bolton - compiled by P.S. Banes 1933.
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"Milton Parkin - Kinsale Road (Cont'd)
- emmigrants from England 1816
- settled in Brock Township (Uxbridge area)
E. Daily Record (journal) of George Harbron April 13, 1839 to 1900's lot 5 7th conc.
Pickering Twp.
- mention of John Adamson (millwright & carpenter) of Greenwood
F. George Gamble's Hymn book ca. mid 18th Ce.
- first teacher in Kinsale area
G. Quantity of mortgages dating from 1869.
Howard Turner - Ajax, Ontario
A. motion slip accepting resignation of Hector Beaton from the office of township clerk,
dated Oct. 23, 1883
B. Oath of office of Donald R. Beaton as township clerk, Oct. 23, 1883
C. Scrapbook of news clippings collected by D. R. Beaton from 1882 to 1935, pasted
into the journal of the Assembly of Upper Canada, 1837-38
D. Release of Executors of Will of Richard Evans from certain degatees; April 4, 1862
E. Family histories of Turner & Hanson families - no dates -sketchy
F. Deed to farm lot 29-30 conc. 5. 1841 to William Turner
G. Mortgage for above $475.00 for 400 acres with Saltern Owens
H. Account books of expenses for grandmother’s maintainance
and funeral expenses ( 1890-1892)
I. Numerous other documents relating to small land transactions
J. numerous photos & photo cards showing views of Whitevale,
Pickering, elevator at Frenchmans Bay, Rouge River Bridge farm and buildings,
relatives (1900-1910)
James ""Mac"" Armstrong
A. Farm diaries, 1860-1952, approx. 90 vol.
B. History of Cherrywood by George Cober (?), 1952 duplicated copy.
Mrs. J. Howard Malcolm Sr.
A. Copy of Diary of Mrs. T.C. Brown, 1898-1952
- Mrs. Malcolm's mother
- records Brougham news, births, marriages, deaths
B. Original Daybooks, 1898-1952
Dr. N.F. Tomlinson
A. Notebooks about century farms on 7, 8, 9 Concessions
- willing to send these to Archives to be microfilmed
B. Notebook of Tomlinson family genealogy
- observations
- patients
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"Additions to Bibliography, June 24 - July 20.
Lloyd Johnston: (Brougham)
1) Article written by Lloyd Johnston concerning township government and history from
1791 to 1957,
2) Johnston family tree tracing back to Ireland, ca. 1810, complete.
Mrs. McTaggart: (Kinsale)
1) Tweedsmuir History of Kinsale, containing considerable original photographs/articles,
etc.
2) Scrapbook of the Institute, ca, 1972.
3) Institute Minutes, 1906-1972.
4) Copy of Ontario Co, map, 1860,
5) SS #9, Greenwood, Minutes from 1857
12 vol., including receipts, contracts, etc,
6) SS #9, Greenwood School Register.
Sidney Pugh: (Greenwood)
1) Two drafts of a manuscript history of Whitevale, by Mr. Pugh's father, ca. 1930.
2) Pugh family tree from 1342, compiled by Mabel (Pugh)
Edwards.
3) Notebook, 1790-, brought from Wales, contains arithmetic exercises,
notes on family births. Compiled by Mr. Pugh's great-great grandfather.
(These records can be made available to Archives)
William Brown family: (Salem)
1) Oct. 11, 1901 issue Pickering News.
2) Collection of family records (200-300 pieces), including receipts, bills,
insurance policies, mortgages, etc., 1852-.
Includes original agreement to purchase 50 acres of the Brown homestead from
Mr. Sharrard.
3) Collection of Books - schoolbooks, hymnery, bibles, books on Methodist history,
including Salem church, 1833-.
4) Collection of photographs, 1870-. Kinsale Band, ca. 1900
Gravel pit operations, ca. 1912.
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"5) Greenwood Star Temple (Temperance Hall) #244, Minutes, ca. 1875.
6) Salem Methodist Church class attendance register, May 1861.
7) Three notebooks of hand-written records of Brown family history and area
(Salem, Kinsale, Greenwood) history, compiled by William Brown Jr.
8) Salem Methodist Church Bible, containing records of baptisms from 1857.
9) Salem Church cemetery plot plans, ca. 1850 -present.
Hugh Miller: (Concession 7)
1) Ontario County Atlas, 1877 (Beeres)
2) Crimean War Ed. of London Times, 1855.
3) Diary of Agnes Miller of a trip to Scotland, June 1833.
4) Family and business records of John Miller and descendants, including Robert and
Allan, one of the founders of the C.N.E. The Millers were farmers and cattle breeders,
and the records relate to the exportation and importation of sheep and cattle,
John Miller was a famous Judge of cattle, and Mr. Hugh Miller possesses a bed quilt
made from the prize ribbons won at American and Canadian fairs by John Miller's
sheep herd in one year.
5) Diaries of John Miller, 1834-1914, relating to activities at the homestead farm.
6) Township Voters Lists, late 19th Century.
7) Manuscript account of fairs and Miller family participation up to the time of the founding
of the C.N.E.
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"ONTARIO ARCHIVES
TORONTO
Ref: MU 2318- Oral History
This copy is made for research purposes only and not for reproduction without the
consent of the Archives of Ontario.
All responsibility for questions of copyright that may arise in the use of this print is
assumed but the recipient.
"
"Additions to Bibliography, June 24 - July 20.
Lloyd Johnston: (Brougham)
1) Article written by Lloyd Johnston concerning township government and history from
1791 to 1957.
2) Johnston family tree tracing back to Ireland, ca. 1810, complete.
Mrs. McTaggart: (Kinsale)
1) Tweedsmuir History of Kinsale, containing considerable original photographs, articles,
etc.
2) Scrapbook of the Institute, ca. 1972.
3) Institute Minutes, 1906-1972.
4) Copy of Ontario Co. map, 1860.
5) SS #9, Greenwood, Minutes from 1857
12 vol., including receipts, contracts, etc.
6) SS #9, Greenwood School Register.
Sidney Pugh: (Greenwood)
1) Two drafts of a manuscript history of Whitevale, by Mr. Pugh's father, ca. 1930.
2) Pugh family tree from 1842, compiled by Mabel (Pugh) Edwards.
3) Notebook, 1790-, brought from Wales, contains arithmetic exercises, notes on family
births. Compiled by Mr. Pugh's great-great grandfather.
(These records can be made available to Archives)
William Brown family: (Salem)
1) Oct. 11, 1901 issue Pickering News.
2) Collection of family records (200-300 pieces), including receipts, bills, insurance
policies, mortgages, etc., 1852-.
Includes original agreement to purchase 50 acres of the Brown homestead from
Mr. Sharrard.
3) Collection of Books - schoolbooks, hymnery, bibles, books on Methodist history,
including Salem church, 1833-.
4) Collection of photographs, 1870-. Kinsale Band, ca. 1900.
Gravel pit operations, ca. 1912.
"
"Frederick and Muriel Gostick (Cont'd)
- accounts of itinerant preachers both Baptist and Methodist
- richly detailed and in excellent condition
- ends in 1836
E. Journal by Thomas Fleming Gostick (Rev. Thomas Gostick's Son) containing much
of above but continuing from 1835 to 1948
- contains burial arrangements in cemetery
- excellent condition and complete
F. agreement to use 1/2 acre of land for driving shed at cemetery 1862
G. Gostick Tracy Centenary 25th June 1932
- write up of history by Fred Tracey.
H. Gostick family tree - mostly in England (from 13th C.)
- mention of Gosticks in Canada
- contains a letters written by Rev. Thom. Gostick in 1828 and 1859
I. Crown deed between Thomas Gostick and Crown Oct.11, 1836
J. Will of Rev. Thomas Gostick - Oct. 15, 1859
K. Will of Thomas Fleming Gostick - 1894
L. Cash book - Gostick Cemetery 1862 - 1914
M. Books too numerous to mention some dating from 18th C. including 4th & 5th
Canadian series of School Books 1867 - 1868
Edna Green - Greenwood, Ont.
A. Lithograph of mill at Greenwood by G.J. Green
B. 1840 diary of great Uncle Jonathan Slater lived on corner Don Mills Rd. and hwy #7
- farmer
- day to day events
- former warden of York County
- ends in 1857
- reference pg. 307 Vol II ""History of Toronto and County of York (1885)
- good condition
C. Diary of Frederick Green dated 1833 - 1841
- account of sailing to Quebec and Montreal from Newmarket
- account of apprenticeship in New York City
- some ledger notes
- recipes for brewing
- fair condition - in pencil
D. Receipe ledger 1842 - 1850's
- wheat transactions etc. connected with mill
E. collection of photographs relating to Greenwood
Milton Parkin - Kinsale Road
A. Abstract of title to lot 2 conc. 6 N.E. Section from Kinsale dated 15 Oct. 1901 -
gives history of transactions.
B. ""Kinsale"" by Victoria Mowbray
C. Sales Bill to Mr. C Pilkey (Pelletier) Oct. 29, 1918 lot 12 B.F. Conc. Pick. Twp.
D. Genelogy of Wm. Bagshaw and Sarah Bolton - compiled by P.S. Banes 1933.
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